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From: "Ashwini Bhatia" <[email protected]>
Date: 22 Oct 2016 9:18 am
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:254434] Re: Clematis Buchananiana ABJAN01/09
To: "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]>
Cc: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>, "Saroj Kasaju" <[email protected]>

Dear Chris,
I have also followed your detailed comments on this. For long I had thought
species here to be *C. connata* but following ID keys by Col. Collett and
Polunin & Stainton, I convinced myself that the flowers here are *C.
buchananiana*. I am listing my reasons;

Collett;

Stems faintly grooved, flowers not ribbed……*C. connata*
Stems grooved, *flowers ribbed*……*C. buchananiana*

Stainton & Polunin;

Leaf-stalks fused together at the node often into a large flat disc, petals
not ribbed, achenes silky-haired……*C. connata*
Leaf-bases more or less united round stem,* flowers sweet-scented, petals
ribbed,* achenes woolly-haired…..*C. buchananiana*

The flowers on our plants are definitely sweet-scented and ribbed. That
should place our plants under *C. buchananiana*. However, the leaf-stalks
are jointed mostly into a small flat disc (on the many plants I have
photographed I did not find a ‘large’ disc forming). To my untrained eyes
achenes don’t appear to have silky hair, more woolly-haired.

Flora of Chamba and Flora of Kullu list both species to be common in their
respective areas.

These are my reasons to conclude the ID but I am willing to learn. Please
advise.

Thanks and regards,
Ashwini


On 22 Oct 2016, at 08:55, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: 22 Oct 2016 7:11 am
Subject: [efloraofindia:254434] Re: Clematis Buchananiana ABJAN01/09
To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>
Cc:

> Yes, this plant comes within* Clematis connata* (there is a 'connate'
base, though not as pronounced as in some variants).  Definitely not

*> C.buchananiana*.
>
> Please can someone send in some fresh images of this species or look
amongst their past photos to see if they have the real thing.
>
> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 2:41:27 PM UTC, ashwini wrote:


>>
>> This climber with fragrant cream colour flowers is quite common here. I
found one still in flower today and brought it home to have a closer look.
I have always assumed it to be* C. connata* but after studying my sample
today think it to be* C. buchananiana*. The flowers are ribbed and so are
the stalks. Flowers, filaments and stalks are hairy. Please advise.
>>
>> Clematis buchananiana—Fragrant Chinese Clematis
>> Near Dal Lake, Dharamshala Cantt. HP
>> 1800m
>> 17 January 2016.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Ashwini
>>
>>
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