Thanks, Chadwell ji On 12 Nov 2016 6:19 am, "[email protected]" < [email protected]> wrote:
> Alok, Dr Singh is correct that it is an Androsace and not a Primula. > *However, > it does not tally with what I understand to be Androsace foliosa. Instead, > I consider it to be Androsace studiosorum.* > > > I have not seen A.foliosa in the wild. I did not come across it in the > main Kashmir Valley (not sure if it grows there as Stewart gives no > records) but as I frequently > passed through or by-passed altogether the elevations where it grows, > would probably have missed it anyhow. > > The altitude that you say you found it is a major problem in that Stewart > had no records of A.foliosa anywhere near such high elevations. Nasir in > Primulaceae for Flora of Pakistan says it is fairly common in the NW > Himalaya, found in forest shade and clearings from 2300-3200m. This just > does not fit. > > And given the written description and line drawing provided, this does not > tally either. The images on the Androsace world site are only of > cultivated specimens (the provenance is not given) but they do not fit > either with the specimen photographed. > > I am speculating that part of the confusion has arisen from the clump you > took containing foliage which superficially might appear similar to the > leaves of A.foliosa is probably those of Bistorta affinis - a gregarious > plant at 4500m. The true rosette can be seen to have rather different > foliage. This foliage and the head of flowers looks like it may well be > what I knew as Androsace primuloides but is now *Androsace studiosorum.* > This is close to Androsace sarmentosa - which is typically an Eastern > Himalayan species. The range of the two seems to overlap in Himachal > Pradesh. In Lahoul you find A.studiosorum such as in the Miyah Nullah. > > Kletter & Kreichbaum within 'Tibetan Medicinal Plants' discussed the > problems attempting to distinguish between A.studiosorum and A.sarmentosa > concluding it has not been satisfactorily resolved. They ended up calling > the material they found on the Rohtang as Androsace aff. sarmentosa. > > Stewart records Androsace studiosorum from 3300-4200m in Kashmir where it > is common, so 4500m Pangi-side is not out-of-the-question. He did not > record Androsace sarmentosa in Kashmir. > > Flowers of the Himalaya under the old name of Androsace primuloides (now > A.studiosorum) considered it was endemic to Kashmir but this is incorrect; > it is known from Lahoul and Baltistan as well and perhaps elsewhere but > difficult to know beyond these places due to uncertainty between the two > species. > > You can see a hairy stolon developing in the clump that was dug up - these > tend to be more prominent in A.studiosorum cf. A.sarmentosa, which supports > my suggested identification. > > > On Monday, January 23, 2012 at 3:54:43 PM UTC, Alok Mahendroo wrote: > >> Dear friends, >> A member of the Primula family... I thought to be Primula macrophylla... >> but is it...?? >> >> Location Pangi valley, Himachal >> Altitude 4500 mts >> Habit herb >> Habitat wild >> Height - 6 inches >> Season July August >> >> regards >> Alok >> >> -- >> Himalayan Village Education Trust >> Village Khudgot, >> P.O. Dalhousie >> District Chamba >> H.P. 176304, India >> >> www.hivetrust.wordpress.com >> www.forwildlife.wordpress.com >> http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_ >> js=on&_new=true&id=2186 >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
