Sorry folks... I have not been keeping track of all the changes ... but I am very glad that all old threads are being carefully scrutinised to help guide others... A BIG Thanks to Chadwell ji, Gurcharan ji and Garg ji for their untiring efforts... regards Alok
On Sat, 2016-11-19 at 17:57 +0530, J.M. Garg wrote: > Thanks, Chadwell ji > > > > > On 12 Nov 2016 6:19 am, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Alok, Dr Singh is correct that it is an Androsace and not a > Primula. However, it does not tally with what I understand to > be Androsace foliosa. Instead, I consider it to be Androsace > studiosorum. > > > > I have not seen A.foliosa in the wild. I did not come > across it in the main Kashmir Valley (not sure if it grows > there as Stewart gives no records) but as I frequently > passed through or by-passed altogether the elevations where it > grows, would probably have missed it anyhow. > > > The altitude that you say you found it is a major problem in > that Stewart had no records of A.foliosa anywhere near such > high elevations. Nasir in Primulaceae for Flora of Pakistan > says it is fairly common in the NW Himalaya, found in forest > shade and clearings from 2300-3200m. This just does not fit. > > > And given the written description and line drawing provided, > this does not tally either. The images on the Androsace world > site are only of cultivated specimens (the provenance is not > given) but they do not fit either with the specimen > photographed. > > > I am speculating that part of the confusion has arisen from > the clump you took containing foliage which superficially > might appear similar to the leaves of A.foliosa is probably > those of Bistorta affinis - a gregarious plant at 4500m. The > true rosette can be seen to have rather different foliage. > This foliage and the head of flowers looks like it may well be > what I knew as Androsace primuloides but is now Androsace > studiosorum. This is close to Androsace sarmentosa - which > is typically an Eastern Himalayan species. The range of the > two seems to overlap in Himachal Pradesh. In Lahoul you find > A.studiosorum such as in the Miyah Nullah. > > > Kletter & Kreichbaum within 'Tibetan Medicinal Plants' > discussed the problems attempting to distinguish between > A.studiosorum and A.sarmentosa concluding it has not been > satisfactorily resolved. They ended up calling the material > they found on the Rohtang as Androsace aff. sarmentosa. > > > Stewart records Androsace studiosorum from 3300-4200m in > Kashmir where it is common, so 4500m Pangi-side is not > out-of-the-question. He did not record Androsace sarmentosa > in Kashmir. > > > Flowers of the Himalaya under the old name of Androsace > primuloides (now A.studiosorum) considered it was endemic to > Kashmir but this is incorrect; it is known from Lahoul and > Baltistan as well and perhaps elsewhere but difficult to know > beyond these places due to uncertainty between the two > species. > > > You can see a hairy stolon developing in the clump that was > dug up - these tend to be more prominent in A.studiosorum cf. > A.sarmentosa, which supports my suggested identification. > > > On Monday, January 23, 2012 at 3:54:43 PM UTC, Alok Mahendroo > wrote: > > Dear friends, > A member of the Primula family... I thought to be > Primula macrophylla... > but is it...?? > > Location Pangi valley, Himachal > Altitude 4500 mts > Habit herb > Habitat wild > Height - 6 inches > Season July August > > regards > Alok > > -- > Himalayan Village Education Trust > Village Khudgot, > P.O. Dalhousie > District Chamba > H.P. 176304, India > > www.hivetrust.wordpress.com > www.forwildlife.wordpress.com > > http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186 > > > > > -- 43 rue des Pleus 77300, Fontainebleau www.hivetrust.wordpress.com www.forwildlife.wordpress.com http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186 https://www.facebook.com/pages/La-biodiversit%C3%A9-en-France-Biodiversity-in-France/430541896996270?ref=hl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
