Thanks, Chadwell ji

On 19 Nov 2016 7:04 pm, "[email protected]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Further to my posting on 12th November.  This is a totally different
> geranium to the photographed in VOF (see above posting).
>
> *I currently cannot put a firm name on this - shall comment further in due
> course. *Further to my recent post about photographing Geraniums.
>
> *I do not think this comes within the G.collinum-pratense-himalayense
> alliance/complex.  Kashmir is graced with quite a number of poorly-known*
>
> *geraniums.*
>
>
>
> Let me try to explain.  In the Notes Yeo supplied me, he draws attention
> to the problematical G.collinum-pratense-himalayense alliance.  He
> considered this was particularly critical in the NW Himalaya with high
> quality pressed specimens needed (nowadays these can be supplemented and
> sometimes replaced by high quality digital images (provided the advice
> given below is followed).  This alliance has pink to blue flowers
> (sometimes white) in which the stamen-tip and stigmas are never
> blackish-purple...
>
>
>
>
> I consider it will be helpful for keen photographers, willing to make an
> additional effort, to know which parts of Geranium to photograph.  Having
> images of such parts of each geranium will greatly aid identification and
> enhance our understanding of the genus in the Himalaya - and perhaps you
> can help with the locating and identification of a species new-to-science!
>
>
>
>
>
> PHOTOGRAPHING GERANIUMS:
>
>
>
> *IF only the first one or two flowers have come out don't bother to
> collect as the form of inflorescence will not be evident.*
>
>
> *The rootstock is important; get enough to show whether compact or
> creeping, or annual.  You can photograph the base of the plant which should
> provide this information.  Clearly, one requires permission from the
> authorities to uproot a plant.  There is still  a need and indeed role for
> the collection of pressed specimens for herbaria in India but that is
> primarily the domain of staff of botanic gardens/ institutions.*
>
> * In the early stages of flowering look out for the best-developed unripe
> fruits available.*
>
> * If fruit is ripe try to include both dehisced and undehisced states.*
>
> * If the fruits are falling with the seeds inside them, collect some (many
> geraniums disperse their seed explosively but some seed is often retained).*
>
> *Include some loose petals when pressing (detach if necessary).  Expose
> stamens to show filament shape and hairs by taking 2 or 3 sepals off a
> flower from which petals have recently dropped.*
>
> *Smoothing out one or two leaves and flowers as you close the press may be
> helpful; a few separately pressed basal and lower/middle stem leaves are
> often useful.*
>
> *Wilted specimens can be very misleading.*
>
> *Notes should be taken as to flower posture, colour and patterning of
> petals, colour of stigmas, anthers and distal parts of filaments (not
> necessary if your photos show these).*
>
> *And don't forget to ensure the stipules are clearly shown - something
> that would have been obviously in pressed specimens, so not mentioned above
> by Yeo.*
>
>
> On Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 3:03:04 PM UTC, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>
>> *Geranium himalayense* Kllotzsch
>>
>> Large-flowered Himalayan species somewhat similar to G. pratense but with
>> wedge-shaped segments, larger purple to pink flowers with 20-28 mm long
>> petals and longer fruits 4-4.5 cm long.
>>
>> Photographed from Kashmir
>>
>>
>> --
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>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
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