Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]> Date: 21 Dec 2016 5:59 a.m. Subject: The differences between Geum roylei Boille and Geum urbanum L. To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> Cc:
Having now submitted two postings of Geum elatum, it is time to see if progress can be made clarifying the difference between: Geum roylei Boille (syn. G.urbanum Hk. FBI) and Geum urbanum L. Stewart understood that BOTH species were common in Kashmir. *Is this the current thinking amongst Indian botanists and IF so, * *on what basis are they told apart?* I do have a set of images of G.urbanum taken in the UK which we can use for comparative purposes but I think it will be informative to know the current thinking first. *Just seen that Geum roylei is an UNRESOLVED name according to the* *latest version of 'The Plant List'!* *What fun.* *I also cannot access Geum in 'Flora of Pakistan'. Have they come up with* *another change of genus? As Geums WERE known to be in Pakistan. With* *Geum elatum described in 'Flowers of Pakistan' which says there are only 2 species of* *Geum in that country - I have to say I question the identification of the photos claiming to* *be G.elatum - the flowers look too small to me (cannot see the ffoliage).* *Can anyone help clarify the situation?* *Collet in 'Flora Simlensis' said that Geum elatum L. grew commonly around Shimla.* *But he generally followed Hooker and the INCORRECT assumption at that time that lots* *of 'British'/'European' species grew in the W.Himalaya, so IF Geranium roylei is a separate* *species, as was the thinking behind 'Flowers of the Himalaya', Collet would have just* *assumed the Geum at Shimla was a variant of the 'British' plant which was found in Europe* *& West Asia.* *Has the genus been studied since then?* Best Wishes, Chris Chadwell 81 Parlaunt Road SLOUGH SL3 8BE UK www.shpa.org.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

