Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji On 27 Dec 2016 10:15 a.m., "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I do have some knowledge of this Primula in Nepal even though it is *NOT* > a native species or recorded > from that country in various check-lists - which the photo seems to be of > (though you have posted only a single > image and not in close-up). I cannot presently think what other species > it could be - though I am not a specialist > in the genus as a whole and there are many Primulas in China I am totally > unfamiliar with! > > Professor Richards confirmed the identification of a pressed specimen > collected in Nepal (the person who came > across it assumed it was a 'wild' plant) which had been passed on to me > many years ago. In his book 'Primula' > he tells us that as far as is known this species is a native of Yunnan, > south Sichuan, the Shan States, Myanamar > but also occurs around temples near Kathmandu (and I know it from one or > two other places in Nepal). > > *It does beg the question as how it got to be growing around such temples > in Nepal which Richards assumed* > *was as an escape from cultivation but whist quite a pretty flower it > would not necessarily catch the eye of most* > *gardeners particularly those in Nepal? Perhaps there is a connection > with the temples themselves? I know* > *someone in the UK with a strong interest in plants utilised in Tibetan > Medicine, so will ask her if she might have* > *a possible explanation.* > > Maybe the plant arrived accidently with its seed being transported by > visiting monks from a temple in China, rather being > specifically grown as a garden plant and then escaping/partially > naturalising? *One wonders **as to what conditions exist* > *along paths near to temples which allowed it to gain a foothold? Often > more 'delicate' **species cannot compete with more vigorous/rampant ones > are restricted to certain places.* > > It has long aroused my curiosity as to how non-native species arrive in > new countries other than as escapes from cultivation. > > *I met 'Botany' Bill Sykes who participated in the 1952 Polunin, Sykes & > Williams expedition to Nepal and the 1954 Stainton,* > *Sykes & Williams expedition to Nepal (which were Oleg Polunin and Adam > Stainton's first visits to Nepal) when The UK Royal* > *Horticultural Society's representative on these expeditions. He later > moved to New Zealand (where I was on a lecture tour some* > *25 years ago). He worked primarily as a botanist and had a spell in > China. He observed that the Chinese do not differentiate much* > *between native (wild) species and introduced ones (which in the UK we > describe as 'Aliens & Adventives'). To them a plant growing in China is a > 'Chinese' plant.* > > *I find the distinction useful in a better understanding of a plant - just > as my detailed posts contained information about altitudinal range, habitat > and so on, seem worthwhile to me, rather than JUST an identification (no > matter how important this is and to get it as correct AS IS POSSIBLE and I > regular comment that either I personally am uncertain or that nobody is > really sure in some cases, even* > *those with specialist knowledge, even though this is frustrating for > those EXPECTING a quick & simple answer/name. * > > *I LEAVE IT FOR OTHERS TO DECIDE/DEBATE WHAT IS THE CURRENT 'ACCEPTED' > NAME - WHICH COULD CHANGE AGAIN IN THE FUTURE!* > > Dr Kumar posted a couple of lovely images of this species taken close to a > Gompa in Sikkim see: https://groups.google.com/ > forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/xnjOdc_c1kQ. > > Primula forbesii is not recorded in 'Flora of Bhutan' Vol 2 Part 2 which > covers Primulaceae in both Bhutan and Sikkim. > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>; D.S Rawat < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, 26 December 2016, 13:17 > *Subject:* Fwd: Primula forbesii (accepted name) ??? > > Thanks, Saroj ji > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Saroj Kasaju" <[email protected]> > Date: 23 Dec 2016 4:22 p.m. > Subject: Primula forbesii (accepted name) ??? > To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" < > [email protected]> > Cc: > > Dear members > > Location: Dhulikhel, Nepal > Altitude: 5000 ft. > Date: 26 March, 2013 > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
