Glad to learn one source still accepts Viburnum foetens as a separate species
-the foliage, when crushed, certainly stinks!
Let us hope other members take more photos of Viburnum in Kashmir to help
asevidence to support the view that it should be considered as a separate taxon
-i.e. as var. or subsp. foetens, at the very least.
I did take some not terribly good slides of the plant in Pakistan in April
1987, whichI do not seem to have scanned in yet. It is my intention to do so
and then share oneFI.
I shall also be asking some people I know if they will loan me their slides of
Himalayanspecies taken in the wild and cultivation form use as reference
material on eFI - otherwiseit goes to waste.
I am also looking to encourage those who have been on treks in different parts
of the Himalayain recent years who took digital images of plants to submit to
me then I can select those relevant to eFI.
It is good to put things to good use. There are few purposes to which slides
can be put nowadays -most specialist horticultural society journals cannot
accept slides as illustrations anymore.
A great pity when resources go to waste.
In the case of plants in cultivation, it is importance to have some idea of
provenance and reliable identification - once a plant has been cultivated over
a long period it can change it various ways(not just through hybridisation)
such that posting images of these would lead to confusion with thegenuine wild
species.
Plant identification is complicated enough without ADDING to the confusion.
Best Wishes,
Chris Chadwell
81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK
www.shpa.org.uk
From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>;
[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2017, 15:04
Subject: Re: Viburnum grandiflorum in Kashmir
Thanks, Chadwell ji.However, Catalogue of Life gives Viburnum foetens Decne. as
an accepted name, although The Plant List Ver. 1.1 (based on Tropicos) & Flora
of Pakistan give it as a syn. of Viburnum grandiflorum Wall. ex DC.
On 7 February 2017 at 12:18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Chadwell ji---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "C CHADWELL" <chrischadwell261@btinternet. com>
Date: 7 Feb 2017 11:44 a.m.
Subject: Viburnum grandiflorum in Kashmir
To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
Cc:
Further to my recent post about a cultivated Viburnum flowering in a UK garden
(one of the parents being V.grandiflorum), here with 3 images of what I knew
asViburnum foetens, which is now included under V.grandiflorum.
Stewart knew it as Viburnum foetens Dcne. dating back to the account of
Jacquemont'svisit to Kashmir in 1830 and considered at that time to be the
"Western Form" of V.nervosum.
He noted in Kashmir that it often covered whole hillsides @ 2100-3600m. Easily
recognised byits characteristic unpleasant smell. Probably the commonest shrub
in its altitudinal zone in theNW. Himalaya, so strange that these are the first
images to be posted from Kashmir.
Flowers of the Himalaya said of V.grandiflorum that is was found in forests &
shrubberies,common in Nepal @ 2700-3600m from Himachal Pradesh to SE Tibet.
The 'West Himalayan'form, V.foetens is the commonest undershrub of the
coniferous forests of Kashmir. Now regardedas a form of V.grandiflorum by most
botanists.
Flora Simlensis had this under V.foetens - found at Narkunda.
Stewart included Viburnum under the Caprifoliaceae family whilst Flowers of the
Himalaya hadit under Sambucaceae - now Adoxaceae!
I have to say, knowing Adoxa moschatellina from the UK, I would NOT
automatically think of Viburnumbelonging to the same family....
Incidentally, Stewart knew Adoxa moschatellina var. inodora from forest humus @
2700-3450m at Sonamarg,Gulmarg, Pahlgam - another species missing from eFI.
Best Wishes,
Chris Chadwell
81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK
www.shpa.org.uk
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