I am in FULL agreement that what I currently understand to be C.cana doesNOT
tally/match with the images you have provided links to.
I have high regard for the work of Professor Bouffard at Harvard but
occasionallythe same type of images from China of species I am familiar with
from the borderlandsof W.Tibet do not match well his/his team's images (this is
for other species belongingto different genera).
I do have an image (a colour print) which I intend to look out and scan in
(which was published in a past journal of the Himalayan Plant Association) of
what I consider is Campanulacana in cultivation. This I can then post.
Seems to me that the genus Campanula (like so many others) is need of revision
in the Himalaya(and bordering regions).
IF, what I consider to be C.cana, is not, then it certainly belongs to a
different taxon to the plantillustrated in the links you provided.
Best Wishes,
Chris Chadwell
81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK
www.shpa.org.uk
From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, 27 February 2017, 11:30
Subject: Re: Campanula cana - the true species in H.P.
Thanks, Chadwell ji.Pl. the following links on Flora of China for Campanula
cana:http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104629&flo ra_id=800
http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104630&flo ra_id=800
http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104631&flo ra_id=800
http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104632&flo ra_id=800
http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104633&flo ra_id=800"
I am unable to related your posted image with the herbarium specimen for which
you have given the links.
On 18 February 2017 at 08:51, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji.
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From: C CHADWELL <chrischadwell261@btinternet. com>
Date: 17 February 2017 at 23:18
Subject: Campanula cana - the true species in H.P.
To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
Sorry but the entries under C.cana in eFI at present do NOT match my
understanding ofthat species.
Stewart does not include it in his Catalogue nor is it mentioned in
Campanulaceae for Pakistan.
Back in 1989 a colleague of mind found a Campanula near the bottom of the
Rohtang Pass. Heinitially assumed it was Campanula cashmeriana but having seen
this species in Kashmir, it wasclear to me that they did not match. I have
some images of this in cultivation which I plan to postat some point.
After some time I reached the conclusion that the plant in the upper Kulu
Valley was C.cana - eventhough it had not been recorded previously West of what
was Kumaon.
There has been much confusion about the smaller-flowered Campanulas in the
Himalaya. FloraSimlensis included Campanula canescens (which Stewart gave as a
synonym of C.benthamii) andC.cana under C.colorata - which is now a synonym of
C.pallida.
See: http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/ge tImage.do?imageBarcode=K000814 540 for a
herbarium specimenat Kew - although low resolution, you can clearly see
differences with the specimens named C.cana on eFI.
See: http://elmer.rbge.org.uk/bgbas e/vherb/bgbasevherb.php?cfg=
bgbase/vherb/zoom.cfg&filename =E00275060.zip&queryRow=3
for a high resolution image which one can zoom into.
However, it seems to me that not all specimens at Edinburgh match well with my
understanding of this species -nor do some of the images available on the
internet.
All this requires further study.
Hopefully the additional images I will post shall provide supporting evidence
for my thinking.
Best Wishes,
Chris Chadwell
81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK
www.shpa.org.uk
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