Thanks, Chadwell ji On 28 Feb 2017 2:52 p.m., "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am in FULL agreement that what I currently understand to be C.cana does > NOT tally/match with the images you have provided links to. > > I have high regard for the work of Professor Bouffard at Harvard but > occasionally > the same type of images from China of species I am familiar with from the > borderlands > of W.Tibet do not match well his/his team's images (this is for other > species belonging > to different genera). > > I do have an image (a colour print) which I intend to look out and scan in > (which was > published in a past journal of the Himalayan Plant Association) of what I > consider is Campanula > cana in cultivation. This I can then post. > > Seems to me that the genus Campanula (like so many others) is need of > revision in the Himalaya > (and bordering regions). > > IF, what I consider to be C.cana, is not, then it certainly belongs to a > different taxon to the plant > illustrated in the links you provided. > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> > *Cc:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Monday, 27 February 2017, 11:30 > *Subject:* Re: Campanula cana - the true species in H.P. > > Thanks, Chadwell ji. > Pl. the following links on Flora of China > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200022861> > for Campanula cana: > http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104629&flo ra_id=800 > <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104629&flora_id=800> > http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104630&flo ra_id=800 > <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104630&flora_id=800> > http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104631&flo ra_id=800 > <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104631&flora_id=800> > http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104632&flo ra_id=800 > <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104632&flora_id=800> > http://www.efloras.org/object_ page.aspx?object_id=104633&flo ra_id=800 > <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104633&flora_id=800>" > > I am unable to related your posted image with the herbarium specimen for > which you have given the links. > > On 18 February 2017 at 08:51, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *C CHADWELL* <chrischadwell261@btinternet. com > <[email protected]>> > Date: 17 February 2017 at 23:18 > Subject: Campanula cana - the true species in H.P. > To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > > > Sorry but the entries under C.cana in eFI at present do NOT match my > understanding of > that species. > > Stewart does not include it in his Catalogue nor is it mentioned in > Campanulaceae for Pakistan. > > Back in 1989 a colleague of mind found a Campanula near the bottom of the > Rohtang Pass. He > initially assumed it was Campanula cashmeriana but having seen this > species in Kashmir, it was > clear to me that they did not match. I have some images of this in > cultivation which I plan to post > at some point. > > After some time I reached the conclusion that the plant in the upper Kulu > Valley was C.cana - even > though it had not been recorded previously West of what was Kumaon. > > There has been much confusion about the smaller-flowered Campanulas in the > Himalaya. Flora > Simlensis included Campanula canescens (which Stewart gave as a synonym of > C.benthamii) and > C.cana under C.colorata - which is now a synonym of C.pallida. > > See: http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/ge tImage.do?imageBarcode=K000814 540 > <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000814540> for a > herbarium specimen > at Kew - although low resolution, you can clearly see differences with the > specimens named C.cana on eFI. > > See: http://elmer.rbge.org.uk/bgbas e/vherb/bgbasevherb.php?cfg= > bgbase/vherb/zoom.cfg&filename =E00275060.zip&queryRow=3 > <http://elmer.rbge.org.uk/bgbase/vherb/bgbasevherb.php?cfg=bgbase/vherb/zoom.cfg&filename=E00275060.zip&queryRow=3> > > for a high resolution image which one can zoom into. > > However, it seems to me that not all specimens at Edinburgh match well > with my understanding of this species - > nor do some of the images available on the internet. > > All this requires further study. > > Hopefully the additional images I will post shall provide supporting > evidence for my thinking. > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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