Hello Dineshji,

Thanks for this post! I was searching for Id of this *Ziziphus* for too
long !! I think this *Ziziphus  *is present on Tilak Bridge Dadar on either
sides of bridge while descending from Plaza theater to Khodadad circle*. *One
more similar tree I saw earlier in Malad West. Very soon I ll share few
images in same thread...


*Paresh V. Churi*

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Yes Garg ji, there is some useful discussion in Anita Kindre ji's post
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/oXOTkfiVMWU/xFTXElDmMEIJ>.
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:40 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes,  I know,  Dinesh ji.
>> I was talking regarding it's relationship with respect to xylopyrus. If I
>> remember correctly,  there was a discussion in the matter in some efi
>> threads.
>>
>> On 11 Apr 2017 11:16 a.m., "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes Garg ji, please stay assured, all names updates are carried to eFI,
>>> everytime.
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 10:21 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks,  Dinesh ji.
>>>> Pl. Also efi site page in this regard.
>>>>
>>>> On 10 Apr 2017 7:13 p.m., "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Garg ji.
>>>>> Thanks Amit ji for the appreciation and the local name - will add it
>>>>> in names database.
>>>>>
>>>>> The name *Ziziphus caracutta* Buch.-Ham. ex Roxb. is hardly popular;
>>>>> it is a unresolved name at The Plants List
>>>>> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2471079>; put as a
>>>>> synonym of *Ziziphus xylopyrus* (Retz.) Willd. at some sites,
>>>>> including India Biodiversity Portal
>>>>> <http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/31935>, while at Botanical
>>>>> Survey of India
>>>>> <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=4629&type=4>,
>>>>> it has a very far relation to* Z. xylopyrus*. But the small note at
>>>>> the end of page is interesting, worth heeding.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope those studying the *Ziziphus* genus in India, throw more light
>>>>> by sorting their species.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:30 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tanks, Dinesh ji,  for your efforts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9 Apr 2017 9:34 p.m., "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> via Species
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species>‎ > ‎
>>>>>>> Z <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/z>‎
>>>>>>> > ‎
>>>>>>> *Ziziphus caracutta* Buch.-Ham. ex Roxb. ... *family*: Rhamnaceae
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Ziziphus caracutta Buch.-Ham. ex Roxb.]
>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F2499679932%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFlOb3v7WNAmvCy1PDp6k2OmmdBNw>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Flowers of India]
>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Frisearch%2Fsearch.php%3Fquery%3DZiziphus%2Bcaracutta%26stpos%3D0%26stype%3DAND&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGvBxJSj5qAkuFJYF7e2i6lt0vDSw>
>>>>>>>  [image: Discussions at efloraofindia]
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/Ziziphus%20caracutta>
>>>>>>>  [image: more views in flickr]
>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fsearch%2F%3Fq%3DZiziphuscaracutta%26m%3Dtags%26z%3Dm&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF56PVD1qnQTguRWiyZmfPhcxGiWA>
>>>>>>>  [image: more views on Google Earth]
>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.flickr.com%2Fservices%2Ffeeds%2Fgeo%2Findia%2F%26tags%3DZiziphuscaracutta%26format%3Dkml_nl&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFIHHvs0wO0FFfoyGyWY91preNonQ>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *ZIZ-ih-fuss* -- an ancient Greek name derived from the Persian
>>>>>>> word *zizafun* ... Dave's Botanary
>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DZiziphus&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFOG-bRsIU8ss7cXCfyMQ7entYDBQ>
>>>>>>> *caracutta* -- most probably derived from name in Tamil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *commonly known as*: woody-fruited jujube
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/woody-fruited-jujube>
>>>>>>>  • *Gujarati*: ઘાટબોર ghat bor
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/gujarati/ghata-bora-ghat-bor>
>>>>>>>  • *Hindi*: कठ बेर kath ber
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/katha-bera-kath-ber>
>>>>>>>  • *Kannada*: ಬಿಳಿ ಚೂರಿಮುಳ್ಳು bili churimullu
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/bili-curimullu-bili-churimullu>
>>>>>>> , ಚಳ್ಳೆ challe
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/calle-challe>
>>>>>>> , ಗೊಟ್ಟೆ gotte
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/gotte-gotte>
>>>>>>> , ಕೊಡಚಿ kodachi
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/kodaci-kodachi>
>>>>>>> , ಕೊಟ್ಟೆಮುಳ್ಳು kottemullu
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/kottemullu-kottemullu>
>>>>>>> , ಪಾರ್ಪುಲಿಗಿಡ parpuligida
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/parpuligida-parpuligida>
>>>>>>>  • *Konkani*: गाळायी कांट्या झाड galayi kantya jhaad
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/konkani/galayi-kantya-jhada-galayi-kantya-jhaad>
>>>>>>> , गुटी रानबोर guti ranbor
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/konkani/guti-ranabora-guti-ranbor>
>>>>>>>  • *Malayalam*: ചെറുതുടലി cherututali
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/malayalam/cerututali-cherututali>
>>>>>>>  • *Marathi*: घाटबोर ghatbor
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/ghatabora-ghatbor>
>>>>>>> , घोंट ghonta
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/ghonta-ghonta>
>>>>>>> , हाडकी बोर hadki bor
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/hadaki-bora-hadki-bor>
>>>>>>> , रानबोर ranbor
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/ranabora-ranbor>
>>>>>>>  • *Sanskrit*: घोंट ghonta
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/ghonta-ghonta>
>>>>>>>  • *Tamil*: கொட்டையிலந்தை kottai-y-ilantai
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/kottaiyilantai-kottai-y-ilantai>
>>>>>>>  • *Telugu*: గొట్టిచెట్టు gotti chettu
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/telugu/gotticettu-gotti-chettu>
>>>>>>> , రేగొట్టి reegotti
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/telugu/regotti-reegotti>
>>>>>>>  • *Tulu*: ಕೊಟ್ಟೆಮುಳ್ಳು kottemullu
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tulu/kottemullu-kottemullu>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *botanical names*: *Ziziphus caracutta* Roxb., Fl. Ind. 2: 361.
>>>>>>> 1824 & Fl. Ind. 1: 612. 1832. ... *synonyms*: *Ziziphus xylopyrus*
>>>>>>>  var. *glaberrima* Sedgew. in Indian For. 45: 71. 1919. • *Ziziphus
>>>>>>> glaberrima* Santapau in J. Bombay Nat. Hist. Soc. 51(4): 803. 1953
>>>>>>> & Fl. Saurashtra 94. 1962. ... Botanical Survey of India
>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fefloraindia.nic.in%2Fefloraindia%2FtaxonList.action%3Fid%3D4629%26type%3D4&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF9VwemP5bYOJTAHU6yvbNj1ZJFgw>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Ziziphus xylopyrus* (Retz.) Willd. ... *synonyms*: *Ziziphus
>>>>>>> caracutta* Buch.-Ham. ex Roxb. ... and more at India Biodiversity
>>>>>>> Portal
>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Findiabiodiversity.org%2Fspecies%2Fshow%2F31935&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFG1RX9SknVmDDLZ-_oLqnPKjkSkw>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Notes from Botanical Survey of India
>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fefloraindia.nic.in%2Fefloraindia%2FtaxonList.action%3Fid%3D4629%26type%3D4&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF9VwemP5bYOJTAHU6yvbNj1ZJFgw>
>>>>>>> : *Ziziphus caracutta* Roxb. was described in 1824. Later authors
>>>>>>> reduced it as a synonym of *Z. xylopyrus* var. *glaberrima*.
>>>>>>> Santapau (1953) raised it to the status of a species *Z. glaberrima*.
>>>>>>> A critical study of the above two taxa reveals that they are conspecific
>>>>>>> and therefore, they are treated here under a single taxon *Z.
>>>>>>> caracutta*, being the earliest valid name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May 17, 2008 ... Tungareshwar Wildlife Sanctuary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>>
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