Gurcharan ji,
A point mentioned in article of Prof Raju et al....

x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
... Thus, several of the *Physalis* species and their natural hybrids are
now well-established invasive weeds of disturbed landscapes and crops
throughout the tropics, including Asia. ...
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x

makes me wonder whether we are seeing natural hybrids.


Regards.




On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:03 PM, R. Vijayasankar
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Gurcharan Ji, i think it is a variation (the species is said to be highly
> variable). The description in the following reference reads as:
>
> "... Leaves simple, alternate, ovate, acute, *margins irregularly toothed*
> ,..."
>
> http://www.banglajol.info/index.php/BJB/article/viewFile/1731/1641
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Vijayasankar ji
>> This was my first observation when I uploaded the plant. Flowers, anthers
>> and fruiting calyx match P. angulata, only the leaves put me to doubt. They
>> are supposed to be dentate in P. angulata.
>>
>>  --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:22 AM, R. Vijayasankar <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Gurcharan ji, your plant should be *Physalis angulata* L. based on
>>> the flower and fruit characters. Fruiting calyx is glabrous, green with
>>> purple nerves on it is one of the distinguishing characters. Prof. V.S.Raju
>>> et al. have solved the problem in identifying Physalis. Pl check this link
>>> for the paper:
>>> http://www.plantsystematics.com/qikan/manage/wenzhang/aps06141.pdf
>>>
>>> alse pl read:
>>> http://www.banglajol.info/index.php/BJB/article/viewFile/1731/1641
>>>
>>>   On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Gurcharan Singh 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vijayasankar ji
>>>> I would be be interested to know possible identity of my plant.
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:50 AM, R. Vijayasankar <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Shrikant ji,
>>>>>
>>>>> As per the link
>>>>> http://www.missouriplants.com/Yellowalt/Physalis_longifolia_page.html it
>>>>> doesn't seem to be P. longifolia whose anthers are yellow and even the
>>>>> fruiting calyx doesn't match.
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Vijayasankar ji
>>>>>> It is interesting to have another species in contention from the
>>>>>> minima complex. Differentiating key for P. minima, P. angulata and P.
>>>>>> lagascae are available at Eflora of China website. Could you kindly 
>>>>>> provide
>>>>>> key to separate P. longifolia from these?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Muthu Karthick 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Dear Gurucharanji,
>>>>>>> Please note that pedicel of *P. angulata* could range from 7 -10mm
>>>>>>> while on anthesis. according to this source:
>>>>>>> http://www.hear.org/Pier/species/physalis_minima.htm
>>>>>>>     <http://www.hear.org/Pier/species/physalis_minima.htm>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Muthu Karthick 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The taxonomy of this *Physalis* spp. triggering out many inputs and
>>>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Vijayasankarji suggested, why don't we include a line of 'source'
>>>>>>>> to the material referred?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:15 AM, R. Vijayasankar <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Tanay and others, i feel, if the information is taken from
>>>>>>>>> some other site or publication, and* if it goes into the group's
>>>>>>>>> database*, i think we have to provide/acknowledge the source or
>>>>>>>>> the original authors' names, as a courtesy and also to avoid copyright
>>>>>>>>> issues. Thanks for your kind service.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:16 AM, tanay bose <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Gurcharan ji And Shrikant ji ,
>>>>>>>>>> I am adding complete description of the plant and also other
>>>>>>>>>> details and using bold text for similar character with these photos
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Physalis minima Linn.*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Family:* Solanaceae
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *English names:* Wild capegooseberry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Indian names:* *kupanti, budda, budamma* (Andhra Pradesh); *ban
>>>>>>>>>> tipariya* (Bengal); *parpoti, popti *(Gujrat); *rasbhary*(Himachal 
>>>>>>>>>> Pradesh);
>>>>>>>>>> *tulati pati *(Hindi); *gudde hannu* (Karnataka); *njodi 
>>>>>>>>>> njotta*(Kerala);
>>>>>>>>>> *chirboti, dhan mori *(Maharashtra); *tholtakalli* (Tamilnadu).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Physalis minima* Linn. is commonly found on the bunds of the
>>>>>>>>>> fields, wastelands, around the houses, on roadsides, etc., where the 
>>>>>>>>>> soil is
>>>>>>>>>> porous and rich in organic matter. It is an annual herbaceous plant 
>>>>>>>>>> having a
>>>>>>>>>> very delicate stem and leaves. It is found growing in the 
>>>>>>>>>> sub-Himalayas up
>>>>>>>>>> to altitudes of 1,650 metres. According to Duthie (1905), it also 
>>>>>>>>>> grows in
>>>>>>>>>> Afghanistan, Baluchistan, tropical Africa, Australia. Ceylon, etc.
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Morphology
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A small, delicate, erect, annual, pubescent herb, 1.5 metres tall;
>>>>>>>>>> internodal length, 8.2 cm; more or less the whole plant is pubescent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Leaves, *petiolate (4.1 cm long)*, ovate to cordate, pubescent,
>>>>>>>>>> delicate, exstipulate, *acuminate, having reticulate palmate
>>>>>>>>>> venation and undulate margins*; *dorsal surface of the leaves,
>>>>>>>>>> dark green and the ventral surface, light green*; 9.7 cm long and
>>>>>>>>>> 8.1 cm broad.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Flowers, *pedicellate having 1.2 cm long pedice*l, hermaphrodite,
>>>>>>>>>> complete, solitary, small companulate, 1.2 to 1.4 cm in diameter;
>>>>>>>>>> * calyx; gamosepalous, 5-toothed, actinomorphic, green,
>>>>>>>>>> persistent, downy; corolla, gamopetalous with five petals, the petal 
>>>>>>>>>> cup,
>>>>>>>>>> 1.1 to 1.3 cm long, yellow, having five black spots on yellow ground 
>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> middle of the corolla cup; stamens, five, epipetalous, 6 to 7 mm 
>>>>>>>>>> long,
>>>>>>>>>> having a black filament and greenish-yellow anther lobes; style, 
>>>>>>>>>> black, 9
>>>>>>>>>> min long, having a yellowish stigma at the top and a yellowish round 
>>>>>>>>>> ovary
>>>>>>>>>> at the base.*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Fruit, a berry, enclosed within the enlarged, 10-ribbed,
>>>>>>>>>> reticulately veined calyx*, which is 4.1 cm long and 2.5 cm
>>>>>>>>>> broad; berries, stalked (stalk, 2.2 cm long), almost round having a
>>>>>>>>>> pinhead-sized depression at the end; diameter, 1.4 to 1.6 cm; 
>>>>>>>>>> weight, 2.15
>>>>>>>>>> g; volume, 1.32 ml; fully mature fruits primrose yellow 601/2 at full
>>>>>>>>>> maturity.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Seeds, globose, Dresden yellow 64/3; weight and volume of l00
>>>>>>>>>> seeds, 113 mg and 197 microlitres respectively.
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The flowering and fruiting season
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The flowers appear in acropetal succession, i.e. the lower flowers
>>>>>>>>>> appear and form fruits earlier than the upper ones, which emerge as 
>>>>>>>>>> well as
>>>>>>>>>> set fruit later. In this way, the flowering and fruiting season of 
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> plant starts from March-April and continues up to the end of 
>>>>>>>>>> November. The
>>>>>>>>>> fruiting starts from the middle of August and continues till the end 
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> November. The peak fruiting season in the Solan area, however, is 
>>>>>>>>>> October.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Chemical composition of the fruit*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The fruit is juicy, containing 61.4 per cent extractable juice and
>>>>>>>>>> 76.7 per cent moisture. The total soluble solids content of the 
>>>>>>>>>> juice is
>>>>>>>>>> 12.5 per cent. The acidity of the juice is 1.84 per cent. The fruits 
>>>>>>>>>> contain
>>>>>>>>>> 5.97 per cent total sugars, 3 per cent reducing sugars, 2.81 per cent
>>>>>>>>>> non-reducing sugars, 0.64 per cent tannins and 0.52 percent pectin. 
>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>> contain a good amount of vitamin C which is 24.45 mg per 100 ml of 
>>>>>>>>>> juice.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The mineral content of the fruit, as represented by its ash, is
>>>>>>>>>> 1.216 per cent. The protein content of the fruit is 2.75 per cent. 
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> content of some of the important minerals of the fruits, viz. 
>>>>>>>>>> phosphorus,
>>>>>>>>>> potassium, calcium, magnesium and iron is 0.108. 0.613, 0.024, 0.056 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> 0.006 per cent respectively.
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Medicinal properties
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kirtikar and Basu (1935) have reported that the plants of *Physalis
>>>>>>>>>> minima* Linn. are bitter, appetizing, tonic, diuretic, laxative,
>>>>>>>>>> useful in inflammations, enlargement of the spleen and abdominal 
>>>>>>>>>> troubles.
>>>>>>>>>> The fruit is considered to be a tonic, diuretic and purgative in the 
>>>>>>>>>> Punjab.
>>>>>>>>>> The *mundas* (a tribe) of Chhota Nagpur mix the juice of the
>>>>>>>>>> leaves with water and mustard oil and use it as a remedy against 
>>>>>>>>>> earache.
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Utilization
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The fruits are covered by the persistent calyx which protects them
>>>>>>>>>> from external injury. They are eaten and liked by all. They are 
>>>>>>>>>> juicy and,
>>>>>>>>>> as is evident from their chemical composition, they are a good 
>>>>>>>>>> source of
>>>>>>>>>> vitamin C. The raw fruit can also be used as a vegetable.
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Tanay
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:28 AM, shrikant ingalhalikar <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sir, your plant too seems P. longifolia Nutt. as the one posted
>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>> Dineshji. Anthers are said to be greenish-blue. Regards, Shrikant
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 6:59 am, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > Dinesh ji's upload has put me in dilemma. If we go by the paper
>>>>>>>>>>> kindly
>>>>>>>>>>> > suggested by Muthu ji (and it can't be ignored being a very
>>>>>>>>>>> recent paper in
>>>>>>>>>>> > a reputed Journal), then my plant fits P. lagascae in leaves,
>>>>>>>>>>> flowers,
>>>>>>>>>>> > anthers and overall appearance, but when we look at fruiting
>>>>>>>>>>> calyx the size,
>>>>>>>>>>> > shape and colour does not allow you to ignore P. angulata as
>>>>>>>>>>> per this paper.
>>>>>>>>>>> > I would request colleagues to kindly give your opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>> >     It is another matter that some authorities (GRIN) consider
>>>>>>>>>>> P. lagascae
>>>>>>>>>>> > as synonym of P. minima. Then we have to decide between P.
>>>>>>>>>>> minima (Pl.
>>>>>>>>>>> > lagascae) or P. angulata.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>>>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>>>>> > Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>>>>>>> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>>>>> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>>>>>> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >  Physalis-minima-Delhi-1.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>> > 169KViewDownload
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >  Physalis-minima-Delhi-2.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>> > 176KViewDownload
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >  Physalis-minima-Delhi-3.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>> > 194KViewDownload
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> With regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> R. Vijayasankar
>>>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research,
>>>>>>>>> The University of Mississippi,
>>>>>>>>> Oxford, MS-38677, USA.
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>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>> Junior Research Fellow
>>>>>>>> Care Earth Trust
>>>>>>>> Chennai - 61
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> Junior Research Fellow
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> With regards
>>>>>
>>>>> R. Vijayasankar
>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research,
>>>>> The University of Mississippi,
>>>>> Oxford, MS-38677, USA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>> R. Vijayasankar
>>> National Center for Natural Products Research,
>>> The University of Mississippi,
>>> Oxford, MS-38677, USA.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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