Anil ji was supposed to send me dried specimens for further studies but he changed his mind. Anyway my comments are still standing. Thank you for resurfacing .
On Oct 14, 2017 19:24, "Anil Thakur" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you, Garg ji > I have this plant with me. I have kept it with its old name Persea > angustifolia. Thank you for familiarizing me with new name. > > > > Regards > > On 14-Oct-2017 6:13 PM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Pl. also check with images at *Ocotea lancifolia* (Schott) Mez >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lauraceae/ocotea/ocotea-lancifolia> >> although >> I am doubtful. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> Date: 6 April 2017 at 12:55 >> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:265306] Lauraceae for ID Persea ?? AT MAR >> 2017/16 >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> Cc: Anil Thakur <[email protected]>, Nidhan Singh < >> [email protected]>, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >> >> >> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> I have also seen this tree, in Mussoorie and in Chakrata area, the input >> received is a conflict between the two, Neolitsea pallens and Persia >> duthei...all due to the fact that I could not record flower pics on any of >> the occasions..!!! >> -- >> Regards, >> Dr. Nidhan Singh >> >> Dr. Nidhan Singh ji, I have photographs of fruits of Neolitsea pallens >> with me. I had photographed them in 2015 & 2016. I was was successful >> in clicking the plants in flowering stage this year. Here this plant >> flowers in February when no other tree is in flowering stage in Shimla. >> Even herbaceous plants are not in flowering except Viola canescens, >> Valerians jatamansi and Ainslea aptera. >> Regards >> Anil Thakur >> >> PL. see fruits of Persea duthiei at http://www.europeana.eu/portal >> /en/record/11614/_HERBARIUMSPECIMEN_RBGK_UK_K000228447.html >> Let us start with the generic identity. Well, *Persea *is a poorly >> defined genus, and especially it is difficult to distinguish it from the >> segregate genus *Machilus*. However, we may observes the >> paniculate-cymose type of infructescences, 6 tepals persistent at the base >> of the fruits which are spreading to reflexed (a cupule is absent). The >> leaves are alternate or slightly clustered, pinnately veined and glaucous >> on the undersurface. These characters conform to the genus *Persea *Mill. >> as defined by Werff (in Blumea 46: 125-140. 2001). In absence of a >> taxononic revision, we have to depend on the available floristic >> treatments. I find that the images posted by you closely match with *Persea >> duthiei *(King ex Hook.f.) Kosterm., described from your area.but your >> photographs are not of *P. duthiei. *If we consult the protologue of >> this species and the images of the type materials housed in the Kew >> herbarium (http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getHomePageResults.do?homePageS >> earchText=Persea+duthiei&x=10&y=10&homePageSearchOption=scie >> ntific_name&nameOfSearchPage=home_page) and particularly the image at ( >> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000228447) we find >> that the fruits are subglobose and noted to be half inch in diam. (in the >> protologue) and ca 10 mm in diam. (as on the type specimens). >> Then what is the identity of your plant? The fruits in your plant are >> clearly ovoid-ellipsoid and probably much larger in size than in *P. >> duthiei *and I also find that the lateral nerves of leaves are fewer in >> number. Hence I feel that the present images are very interesting and >> need to be studied in detail. You may please collect plenty of herbarium >> specimens both in flowering and fruiting and study in detail. The images >> are not matching with any species of *Persea *described so far from >> India and adjoining areas. >> With kind regards, >> Tapas. >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> >> Date: 7 March 2017 at 21:41 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:265306] Lauraceae for ID Persea ?? AT MAR 2017/16 >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> Cc: Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >> >> >> Kindly suggest >> Is it some Persea species ?? >> Lauraceae >> Shimla >> May 2016 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With best Regards, >> >> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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