Respected Dr. Tapas Sir I have not changed my mind, but wanted to collected some more samples, for detailed studies. Secondly, our schedule is very tight (28 hours of teaching per week as against 14 hours suggested by UGC for associate professors) during July-Sept as final semester exams start in October here in H.P. I'll send, what ever I have collected, within 3-4 days. Kindly guide me on my mail ([email protected]) as I have no practical training in taxonomy.
Regards. On 14-Oct-2017 7:48 PM, "Tapas Chakrabarty" <[email protected]> wrote: > Anil ji was supposed to send me dried specimens for further studies but he > changed his mind. > Anyway my comments are still standing. > Thank you for resurfacing . > > On Oct 14, 2017 19:24, "Anil Thakur" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you, Garg ji >> I have this plant with me. I have kept it with its old name Persea >> angustifolia. Thank you for familiarizing me with new name. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> On 14-Oct-2017 6:13 PM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Pl. also check with images at *Ocotea lancifolia* (Schott) Mez >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lauraceae/ocotea/ocotea-lancifolia> >>> although >>> I am doubtful. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>> Date: 6 April 2017 at 12:55 >>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:265306] Lauraceae for ID Persea ?? AT MAR >>> 2017/16 >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Anil Thakur <[email protected]>, Nidhan Singh < >>> [email protected]>, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>> >>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>> I have also seen this tree, in Mussoorie and in Chakrata area, the input >>> received is a conflict between the two, Neolitsea pallens and Persia >>> duthei...all due to the fact that I could not record flower pics on any of >>> the occasions..!!! >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Dr. Nidhan Singh >>> >>> Dr. Nidhan Singh ji, I have photographs of fruits of Neolitsea pallens >>> with me. I had photographed them in 2015 & 2016. I was was successful >>> in clicking the plants in flowering stage this year. Here this plant >>> flowers in February when no other tree is in flowering stage in Shimla. >>> Even herbaceous plants are not in flowering except Viola canescens, >>> Valerians jatamansi and Ainslea aptera. >>> Regards >>> Anil Thakur >>> >>> PL. see fruits of Persea duthiei at http://www.europeana.eu/portal >>> /en/record/11614/_HERBARIUMSPECIMEN_RBGK_UK_K000228447.html >>> Let us start with the generic identity. Well, *Persea *is a poorly >>> defined genus, and especially it is difficult to distinguish it from the >>> segregate genus *Machilus*. However, we may observes the >>> paniculate-cymose type of infructescences, 6 tepals persistent at the base >>> of the fruits which are spreading to reflexed (a cupule is absent). The >>> leaves are alternate or slightly clustered, pinnately veined and glaucous >>> on the undersurface. These characters conform to the genus *Persea *Mill. >>> as defined by Werff (in Blumea 46: 125-140. 2001). In absence of a >>> taxononic revision, we have to depend on the available floristic >>> treatments. I find that the images posted by you closely match with *Persea >>> duthiei *(King ex Hook.f.) Kosterm., described from your area.but your >>> photographs are not of *P. duthiei. *If we consult the protologue of >>> this species and the images of the type materials housed in the Kew >>> herbarium (http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getHomePageResults.do?homePageS >>> earchText=Persea+duthiei&x=10&y=10&homePageSearchOption=scie >>> ntific_name&nameOfSearchPage=home_page) and particularly the image at ( >>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000228447) we >>> find that the fruits are subglobose and noted to be half inch in diam. (in >>> the protologue) and ca 10 mm in diam. (as on the type specimens). >>> Then what is the identity of your plant? The fruits in your plant are >>> clearly ovoid-ellipsoid and probably much larger in size than in *P. >>> duthiei *and I also find that the lateral nerves of leaves are fewer in >>> number. Hence I feel that the present images are very interesting and >>> need to be studied in detail. You may please collect plenty of herbarium >>> specimens both in flowering and fruiting and study in detail. The images >>> are not matching with any species of *Persea *described so far from >>> India and adjoining areas. >>> With kind regards, >>> Tapas. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> >>> Date: 7 March 2017 at 21:41 >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:265306] Lauraceae for ID Persea ?? AT MAR 2017/16 >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Kindly suggest >>> Is it some Persea species ?? >>> Lauraceae >>> Shimla >>> May 2016 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With best Regards, >>> >>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >>> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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