---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> Date: 17 November 2017 at 20:43 Subject: Re: [itpmods:11271] Re: A question- Who has used the search in efi site ? To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> Cc: itpmods <[email protected]>
Sorry for the late reply, Garg Ji. I have noticed some very interesting results during this time regarding google search. 1. If you keep on searching on google again and again, the desired results start coming towards the top. 2. efi results which were appearing in twenties earlier, they have now started appearing in top ten in my searches. 3. When searching again for "Codonopsis viridis". No results from efi appeared while, FoI was at no. 2. 4. I searched for Cotoneaster microphyllus. No results from efi in first 50 results, while FoI was at top. We have lots of photographs on this plant and extensive discussion by Chris Chadwell ji. 5. Some websites pay money to google for showing their page at the top as advertisement. While, tags or crawlers added in the webpage make the page more searchable. 6. When a same thing is searched again and again, search results for that keyword becomes more prominent. This is automatically done by the google servers. 7. One more example: If you search for "Govt College Shimla", you will get results for Centre of Excellence, Government, Sanjauli. at No.1 position, while there are more than 15 colleges in Shimla. This is happening as our computer operator keep on experimenting something new with the website. Now, the question is, what can be done to improve the search results for efloraofindia. Regards On 11/17/17, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Anil ji, > Waiting for your feedback. > > On 11 November 2017 at 10:57, Anil Thakur <[email protected]> wrote: > >> OK, Sir >> After duty hours. >> >> Regards >> >> On 11-Nov-2017 10:07 AM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks, Anil ji. >> It will be interesting to see your results as Singh ji has sent. >> May I request you to pl. post your results on simple google search. >> It will help us better understand the matter. >> >> On 11 November 2017 at 09:24, Anil Thakur <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Garg ji >>> Most of the people use general google search and do not get results for >>> efi entries at the top places. >>> Results show efi entries at top mostly in those cases where information >>> from other sources is not available especially in exclusively Indian >>> Flora. >>> I'll send you detailed technical information after talking with my >>> friend >>> on how to increase visibility of efi in Google searches. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> On 11-Nov-2017 9:10 AM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Singh ji, for this very important feedback. >>>> It is an eye opener, which I was not aware of at all. >>>> In your results I find that both FOI & EFI are almost neck to neck. >>>> >>>> In fact, earlier I always looked for FOI entry on google search, for >>>> validation/ verification of posted plants etc. >>>> I also sought entry of FOI on google search, for adding its link in the >>>> references at efi pages. >>>> Many a times I got efi entry also on search, but I never opened it as I >>>> was already working on that page (in another window) for addition of >>>> numerous posts etc. >>>> I always go to efi pages but only through efi site search & not through >>>> google search. >>>> All this may be the reason for my google search results being skewed in >>>> favour of FOI compared to efi. >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot again for your valuable insights. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11 November 2017 at 03:07, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Garg ji >>>>> 1. Search results many times user specific, it will depend on your >>>>> earlier search history, even if it was made from a different device: >>>>> mobile, different PC, etc >>>>> 2. Adding efloraofindia in search has no meaning, as user would be >>>>> searching without knowing where will it find the record, adding India >>>>> would >>>>> be meaningful if we are filtering records for India. >>>>> 3. To my experience of several years, Flowers of India, always scores >>>>> over most other websites including efloraofindia. >>>>> 4. Ranking in search records would depend on how common that species >>>>> is, and how many websites would have it. >>>>> 5. Wikipedia entry, Dave's Garden, Missouri Botanical Garden, eFlora >>>>> websites, would always score higher, if they have entry for searched >>>>> plant. >>>>> >>>>> In my simple search >>>>> Codonopsis clematidea FOI was at 22, efloraofindia 28 >>>>> Codonopsis ovata FOI at 5, efloraofindia 7 >>>>> Codonopsis gracilis FOI at 23, efloraofindia 4 >>>>> Codonopsis rotundifolia FOI at 9, efloraofindia 7 >>>>> Codonopsis pilosula simple search puts FOI on 15th page (approx >>>>> 150), >>>>> efloraofindia does not figure in even up to 20th page, probably the >>>>> plant >>>>> being important has numerous entries, adding of word India brings FOI >>>>> to >>>>> number 1, efloraofindia number 16 >>>>> Codonopsis lanceolata simple search gets FOI on 18th page (approx >>>>> 175), >>>>> efloraofindia does not figure in first 20 pages, adding word India >>>>> brings >>>>> FOI to 10, efloraofindia to 11 >>>>> Codonopsis viridis FOI at 6, efloraofindia not even up to 150 entry; >>>>> addition of India brings FOI to number 2, efloraofindia to number 4, >>>>> but >>>>> only Codonopsis entry, Codonopsis viridis only as Mail Archive entry. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 7:05 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Anil ji. >>>>>> I could not follow you. Pl. clarify. >>>>>> Yes, I have got password and user ID. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10-Nov-2017 8:29 PM, "Anil Thakur" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Garg ji >>>>>>> I meant spiders or crawlers in on the website. Have you got user ID >>>>>>> and password for updating the site? >>>>>>> Then, it can be done easily by some expert. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10-Nov-2017 3:39 PM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, Anil ji. >>>>>>>> I hope we will also pick up with large scale insertion of images in >>>>>>>> past two years (around 50,000 unique images). A similar number will >>>>>>>> also be >>>>>>>> inserted in coming two years. >>>>>>>> I also hope further comparative images will give us more advantages >>>>>>>> in future. >>>>>>>> If somebody have any suggestion, pl. come forward. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, Anil ji, >>>>>>>> You were talking of tags- Would you pl. clarify this to us ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10 November 2017 at 15:03, Anil Thakur >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Garg ji >>>>>>>>> Flowers of India results mostly appears at second or third place. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10-Nov-2017 11:57 AM, "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As much as I believe, Google Search results are based on many >>>>>>>>> parameters ... the "most searched" word(s) will have the "most" >>>>>>>>> results, >>>>>>>>> and among the results - the "most visited pages" and "most >>>>>>>>> connected pages" >>>>>>>>> will tend to feature among the top results. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Codonopsis viridis page in eFI site >>>>>>>>> 1) could be lesser visited among other pages, >>>>>>>>> 2) could have been comparatively recently made (the Googlebot >>>>>>>>> takes >>>>>>>>> some time to index the newly added pages), >>>>>>>>> 3) could be less connected to other pages. (chances of page to >>>>>>>>> feature in results depends on how well it is linked from other >>>>>>>>> pages - >>>>>>>>> assuming that the other pages are well visited). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After a month or so, please repeat the same searches, their ranks >>>>>>>>> will be seen gaining. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:49 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I further checked up with google search to find out about the >>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>> species available in efi &* FOI *in this genus. >>>>>>>>>> Results are as below: >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis clematidea - efloraofindia - Google Sites >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source= web&cd=15&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiI2-_jqLHXAhWGsI8KHatEBfc4ChAWCDwwB A&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa- --l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-clematidea&usg= AOvVaw0bLOQsnSQ5r2Rg1psNJ3y8> >>>>>>>>>> (efi >>>>>>>>>> page appeared at 15th place)- *FOI (appeared at 2nd place)* >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis ovata - efloraofindia - Google Sites >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source= web&cd=12&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi-yOKJrLHXAhUGpY8KHRkPA744ChAWCC swAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite% 2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae% 2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-ovata&usg=AOvVaw2WzpGGC3em3_ucZTwxRxwV> >>>>>>>>>> (efi >>>>>>>>>> page appeared at 11th place)- *FOI (appeared at 2nd place)* >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis gracilis - efloraofindia - Google Sites >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source= web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjW0cierLHXAhWHpY8KHaSOA WoQFgg7MAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite% 2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae% 2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-gracilis&usg=AOvVaw35jYzSnEIZaYLqaoZIup3Q> >>>>>>>>>> (efi >>>>>>>>>> page appeared at 2nd place)- *FOI (appeared at 4th place)* >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis rotundifolia - efloraofindia - Google Sites >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source= web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjSyuOVqK7XAhUERY8KHcfSD 1cQFghHMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite% 2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae% 2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-rotundifolia&usg=AOvVaw17zlAH_kwKmstZPW6VFRyN> >>>>>>>>>> (efi >>>>>>>>>> page appeared at 5th place)- *FOI (appeared at 4th place)* >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis pilosula >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-pilosula> >>>>>>>>>> (efi >>>>>>>>>> page does not appear on simple search, but appears on top while >>>>>>>>>> searching with efloraofindia word)- *FOI (appeared at 9th place)* >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis lanceolata >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-lanceolata> >>>>>>>>>> (efi >>>>>>>>>> page does not appear on simple search, but appears on top while >>>>>>>>>> searching with efloraofindia word)- *FOI (Does not appear even on >>>>>>>>>> search at Codonopsis lanceolata + flowersofindia)* >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis viridis >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis> >>>>>>>>>> (efi >>>>>>>>>> page does not appear even on search at Codonopsis viridis + >>>>>>>>>> efloraofindia)- *FOI (appeared at 1st place)* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From the above, it appears that this problem is there in FOI >>>>>>>>>> also, >>>>>>>>>> but to a lesser extent. This may be due to FOI pages being much >>>>>>>>>> more older >>>>>>>>>> and popular due availability of images on their pages since the >>>>>>>>>> beginning, >>>>>>>>>> while we have started adding images only since last two years. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> May I request others to comment in the matter pl. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9 November 2017 at 16:37, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I further checked up with google search to find out about all >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> species in efi in this genus. >>>>>>>>>>> Results are as below: >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis clematidea - efloraofindia - Google Sites >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source= web&cd=15&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiI2-_jqLHXAhWGsI8KHatEBfc4ChAWCDwwB A&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa- --l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-clematidea&usg= AOvVaw0bLOQsnSQ5r2Rg1psNJ3y8> >>>>>>>>>>> (appeared >>>>>>>>>>> at 15th place) >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis ovata - efloraofindia - Google Sites >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source= web&cd=12&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi-yOKJrLHXAhUGpY8KHRkPA744ChAWCC swAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite% 2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae% 2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-ovata&usg=AOvVaw2WzpGGC3em3_ucZTwxRxwV> >>>>>>>>>>> (appeared >>>>>>>>>>> at 11th place) >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis gracilis - efloraofindia - Google Sites >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source= web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjW0cierLHXAhWHpY8KHaSOA WoQFgg7MAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite% 2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae% 2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-gracilis&usg=AOvVaw35jYzSnEIZaYLqaoZIup3Q> >>>>>>>>>>> (appeared >>>>>>>>>>> at 2nd place) >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis rotundifolia - efloraofindia - Google Sites >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source= web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjSyuOVqK7XAhUERY8KHcfSD 1cQFghHMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite% 2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae% 2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-rotundifolia&usg=AOvVaw17zlAH_kwKmstZPW6VFRyN> >>>>>>>>>>> (appeared >>>>>>>>>>> at 4th place) >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis pilosula >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-pilosula> >>>>>>>>>>> (does >>>>>>>>>>> not appear on simple search, but appears on top while searching >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> efloraofindia word) >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis lanceolata >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-lanceolata> >>>>>>>>>>> (does >>>>>>>>>>> not appear on simple search, but appears on top while searching >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> efloraofindia word) >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis viridis >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis> >>>>>>>>>>> (Does >>>>>>>>>>> not appear even on search at Codonopsis viridis + efloraofindia) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone explain this ? I am unable to understand this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8 November 2017 at 11:42, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Anil ji, >>>>>>>>>>>> This is really strange. In both ways I could not find efi page >>>>>>>>>>>> on Codonopsis viridis (page created on 11/2/11). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But for search on Codonopsis rotundifolia, this page appeared >>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>> 4th place like Codonopsis rotundifolia - efloraofindia - Google >>>>>>>>>>>> Sites >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source= web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjSyuOVqK7XAhUERY8KHcfSD 1cQFghHMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite% 2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae% 2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-rotundifolia&usg=AOvVaw17zlAH_kwKmstZPW6VFRyN> >>>>>>>>>>>> (page >>>>>>>>>>>> created on 26/8/12). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What could be the reason ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 November 2017 at 11:06, Anil Thakur < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Garg ji >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think, there is no problem in searches on efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>>> page. >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you search in google, most of the time you will not get >>>>>>>>>>>>> results for your >>>>>>>>>>>>> search due to lack of tags. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I searched for Codonopsis viridis and found no results in >>>>>>>>>>>>> google. When searched for Codonopsis viridis and efloraofindia, >>>>>>>>>>>>> the results >>>>>>>>>>>>> appeared. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08-Nov-2017 10:41 AM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, everybody, for the overwhelming feedback. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The main purpose was to know as to whether our moderators are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware about this or not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It carries many advantage over manual browsing as it shows >>>>>>>>>>>>>> results of similar/ confusing species also. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will explain this by giving an example. e.g. On searching on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *''Codonopsis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> viridis''*, I got the following results in the following >>>>>>>>>>>>>> order: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis viridis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis rotundifolia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-rotundifolia> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Campanulaceae >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valley of flowers- List of plants >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/general- eposts/general-efi-posts/treks-walks-trips-talks-etc--- details/list-of-plants> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above shows that results have been shown on priority with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> main search page being shown first. Genera page Codonopsis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shown because it contains details of all the species including >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the searched >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. Codonopsis rotundifolia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-rotundifolia> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shown as it has been confused with the searched species in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some earlier efi >>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions. In fact two of the posts of Codonopsis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotundifolia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-rotundifolia> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were wrongly identified earlier as Codonopsis viridis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I corrected yesterday. Family page of Campanulaceae >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shown as it contains comparative images of all the Codonopsis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> species >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including that of the searched one. Valley of flowers- List >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of plants >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/general- eposts/general-efi-posts/treks-walks-trips-talks-etc--- details/list-of-plants> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also shown as it also contains the name of plants found in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> valley of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> flowers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above search results tells you a lot of things, which may >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be helpful to the searcher in many ways including getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proper >>>>>>>>>>>>>> identification. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e,g. if somebody posts images of Codonopsis viridis, while >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including in efi site, I will search on Codonopsis viridis and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> get these >>>>>>>>>>>>>> results. Than I will open both pages of Codonopsis viridis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis rotundifolia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-rotundifolia> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate windows. After going through images at both species >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages, I will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclude to myself whether posted species has been correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> identified or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. If it does not match with images at either of the pages, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than I will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also open the page of Codonopsis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing the comparative images and finally nailing down the id >>>>>>>>>>>>>> & advising so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope this exercise has lessons to those who are not aware >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the importance of this aspect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pl. give your feedback, if you feel it has been of some use >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 November 2017 at 14:37, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May I request you to pl. let me know who has used search in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/home> & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who has not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just for my curiosity & to know the acquaintance of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members in this matter so that it is highlighted to members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if required. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just a simple *yes* or *no* will do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for- efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-group >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (largest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> images). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also use them >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for- efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-group >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (largest >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> images). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also use them >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each >>>>>>>>>>>>>> image. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for- efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google >>>>>>>>>>>> e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>>>>>>>>>> (largest >>>>>>>>>>>> in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on >>>>>>>>>>>> 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 >>>>>>>>>>>> images). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also >>>>>>>>>>>> use them >>>>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each >>>>>>>>>>>> image. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for- efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google >>>>>>>>>>> e-group >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>>>> in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) >>>>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also >>>>>>>>>>> use them >>>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each >>>>>>>>>>> image. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for- efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>> Indian >>>>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>>> in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) >>>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also >>>>>>>>>> use them >>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each >>>>>>>>>> image. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for- efloraofindia> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>>>> the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or >>>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>> Plants >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them >>>>>>>> for free >>>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>>>> of India'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>>> world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>> etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free >>>> as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or >> Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >> etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> >> >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > -- With best Regards, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
