---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> Date: 17 November 2017 at 21:35 Subject: Re: [itpmods:11271] Re: A question- Who has used the search in efi site ? To: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> Cc: itpmods <[email protected]>
Thanks, Anil ji, for your interesting observations. On 17 November 2017 at 20:43, Anil Thakur <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry for the late reply, Garg Ji. > > I have noticed some very interesting results during this time > regarding google search. > 1. If you keep on searching on google again and again, the desired > results start coming towards the top. > 2. efi results which were appearing in twenties earlier, they have now > started appearing in top ten in my searches. > 3. When searching again for "Codonopsis viridis". No results from efi > appeared while, FoI was at no. 2. > 4. I searched for Cotoneaster microphyllus. No results from efi in > first 50 results, while FoI was at top. We have lots of photographs on > this plant and extensive discussion by Chris Chadwell ji. > 5. Some websites pay money to google for showing their page at the > top as advertisement. While, tags or crawlers added in the webpage > make the page more searchable. > 6. When a same thing is searched again and again, search results for > that keyword becomes more prominent. This is automatically done by the > google servers. > 7. One more example: If you search for "Govt College Shimla", you will > get results for Centre of Excellence, Government, Sanjauli. at No.1 > position, while there are more than 15 colleges in Shimla. This is > happening as our computer operator keep on experimenting something new > with the website. > > Now, the question is, what can be done to improve the search results > for efloraofindia. > > Regards > > > On 11/17/17, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, Anil ji, > > Waiting for your feedback. > > > > On 11 November 2017 at 10:57, Anil Thakur <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> OK, Sir > >> After duty hours. > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> On 11-Nov-2017 10:07 AM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks, Anil ji. > >> It will be interesting to see your results as Singh ji has sent. > >> May I request you to pl. post your results on simple google search. > >> It will help us better understand the matter. > >> > >> On 11 November 2017 at 09:24, Anil Thakur <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Garg ji > >>> Most of the people use general google search and do not get results for > >>> efi entries at the top places. > >>> Results show efi entries at top mostly in those cases where > information > >>> from other sources is not available especially in exclusively Indian > >>> Flora. > >>> I'll send you detailed technical information after talking with my > >>> friend > >>> on how to increase visibility of efi in Google searches. > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> On 11-Nov-2017 9:10 AM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thanks, Singh ji, for this very important feedback. > >>>> It is an eye opener, which I was not aware of at all. > >>>> In your results I find that both FOI & EFI are almost neck to neck. > >>>> > >>>> In fact, earlier I always looked for FOI entry on google search, for > >>>> validation/ verification of posted plants etc. > >>>> I also sought entry of FOI on google search, for adding its link in > the > >>>> references at efi pages. > >>>> Many a times I got efi entry also on search, but I never opened it as > I > >>>> was already working on that page (in another window) for addition of > >>>> numerous posts etc. > >>>> I always go to efi pages but only through efi site search & not > through > >>>> google search. > >>>> All this may be the reason for my google search results being skewed > in > >>>> favour of FOI compared to efi. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks a lot again for your valuable insights. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 11 November 2017 at 03:07, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Garg ji > >>>>> 1. Search results many times user specific, it will depend on your > >>>>> earlier search history, even if it was made from a different device: > >>>>> mobile, different PC, etc > >>>>> 2. Adding efloraofindia in search has no meaning, as user would be > >>>>> searching without knowing where will it find the record, adding India > >>>>> would > >>>>> be meaningful if we are filtering records for India. > >>>>> 3. To my experience of several years, Flowers of India, always scores > >>>>> over most other websites including efloraofindia. > >>>>> 4. Ranking in search records would depend on how common that species > >>>>> is, and how many websites would have it. > >>>>> 5. Wikipedia entry, Dave's Garden, Missouri Botanical Garden, eFlora > >>>>> websites, would always score higher, if they have entry for searched > >>>>> plant. > >>>>> > >>>>> In my simple search > >>>>> Codonopsis clematidea FOI was at 22, efloraofindia 28 > >>>>> Codonopsis ovata FOI at 5, efloraofindia 7 > >>>>> Codonopsis gracilis FOI at 23, efloraofindia 4 > >>>>> Codonopsis rotundifolia FOI at 9, efloraofindia 7 > >>>>> Codonopsis pilosula simple search puts FOI on 15th page (approx > >>>>> 150), > >>>>> efloraofindia does not figure in even up to 20th page, probably the > >>>>> plant > >>>>> being important has numerous entries, adding of word India brings FOI > >>>>> to > >>>>> number 1, efloraofindia number 16 > >>>>> Codonopsis lanceolata simple search gets FOI on 18th page (approx > >>>>> 175), > >>>>> efloraofindia does not figure in first 20 pages, adding word India > >>>>> brings > >>>>> FOI to 10, efloraofindia to 11 > >>>>> Codonopsis viridis FOI at 6, efloraofindia not even up to 150 entry; > >>>>> addition of India brings FOI to number 2, efloraofindia to number 4, > >>>>> but > >>>>> only Codonopsis entry, Codonopsis viridis only as Mail Archive entry. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>>>> Retired Associate Professor > >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>>>> Mob: 9810359089 > >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 7:05 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, Anil ji. > >>>>>> I could not follow you. Pl. clarify. > >>>>>> Yes, I have got password and user ID. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 10-Nov-2017 8:29 PM, "Anil Thakur" <[email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Garg ji > >>>>>>> I meant spiders or crawlers in on the website. Have you got user ID > >>>>>>> and password for updating the site? > >>>>>>> Then, it can be done easily by some expert. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 10-Nov-2017 3:39 PM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yes, Anil ji. > >>>>>>>> I hope we will also pick up with large scale insertion of images > in > >>>>>>>> past two years (around 50,000 unique images). A similar number > will > >>>>>>>> also be > >>>>>>>> inserted in coming two years. > >>>>>>>> I also hope further comparative images will give us more > advantages > >>>>>>>> in future. > >>>>>>>> If somebody have any suggestion, pl. come forward. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, Anil ji, > >>>>>>>> You were talking of tags- Would you pl. clarify this to us ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 10 November 2017 at 15:03, Anil Thakur > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Garg ji > >>>>>>>>> Flowers of India results mostly appears at second or third place. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 10-Nov-2017 11:57 AM, "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> As much as I believe, Google Search results are based on many > >>>>>>>>> parameters ... the "most searched" word(s) will have the "most" > >>>>>>>>> results, > >>>>>>>>> and among the results - the "most visited pages" and "most > >>>>>>>>> connected pages" > >>>>>>>>> will tend to feature among the top results. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Codonopsis viridis page in eFI site > >>>>>>>>> 1) could be lesser visited among other pages, > >>>>>>>>> 2) could have been comparatively recently made (the Googlebot > >>>>>>>>> takes > >>>>>>>>> some time to index the newly added pages), > >>>>>>>>> 3) could be less connected to other pages. (chances of page to > >>>>>>>>> feature in results depends on how well it is linked from other > >>>>>>>>> pages - > >>>>>>>>> assuming that the other pages are well visited). > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> After a month or so, please repeat the same searches, their ranks > >>>>>>>>> will be seen gaining. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards. > >>>>>>>>> Dinesh > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:49 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I further checked up with google search to find out about the > >>>>>>>>>> same > >>>>>>>>>> species available in efi &* FOI *in this genus. > >>>>>>>>>> Results are as below: > >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis clematidea - efloraofindia - Google Sites > >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we > b&cd=15&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiI2-_jqLHXAhWGsI8KHatEBfc4 > ChAWCDwwBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fef > loraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonops > is%2Fcodonopsis-clematidea&usg=AOvVaw0bLOQsnSQ5r2Rg1psNJ3y8> > >>>>>>>>>> (efi > >>>>>>>>>> page appeared at 15th place)- *FOI (appeared at 2nd place)* > >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis ovata - efloraofindia - Google Sites > >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we > b&cd=12&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi-yOKJrLHXAhUGpY8KHRkPA744 > ChAWCCswAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fef > loraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonops > is%2Fcodonopsis-ovata&usg=AOvVaw2WzpGGC3em3_ucZTwxRxwV> > >>>>>>>>>> (efi > >>>>>>>>>> page appeared at 11th place)- *FOI (appeared at 2nd place)* > >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis gracilis - efloraofindia - Google Sites > >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we > b&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjW0cierLHXAhWHpY8KHaSOAWoQF > gg7MAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofi > ndia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis% > 2Fcodonopsis-gracilis&usg=AOvVaw35jYzSnEIZaYLqaoZIup3Q> > >>>>>>>>>> (efi > >>>>>>>>>> page appeared at 2nd place)- *FOI (appeared at 4th place)* > >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis rotundifolia - efloraofindia - Google Sites > >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we > b&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjSyuOVqK7XAhUERY8KHcfSD1cQF > ghHMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofi > ndia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis% > 2Fcodonopsis-rotundifolia&usg=AOvVaw17zlAH_kwKmstZPW6VFRyN> > >>>>>>>>>> (efi > >>>>>>>>>> page appeared at 5th place)- *FOI (appeared at 4th place)* > >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis pilosula > >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-pilosula> > >>>>>>>>>> (efi > >>>>>>>>>> page does not appear on simple search, but appears on top while > >>>>>>>>>> searching with efloraofindia word)- *FOI (appeared at 9th > place)* > >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis lanceolata > >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-lanceolata> > >>>>>>>>>> (efi > >>>>>>>>>> page does not appear on simple search, but appears on top while > >>>>>>>>>> searching with efloraofindia word)- *FOI (Does not appear even > on > >>>>>>>>>> search at Codonopsis lanceolata + flowersofindia)* > >>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis viridis > >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis> > >>>>>>>>>> (efi > >>>>>>>>>> page does not appear even on search at Codonopsis viridis + > >>>>>>>>>> efloraofindia)- *FOI (appeared at 1st place)* > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> From the above, it appears that this problem is there in FOI > >>>>>>>>>> also, > >>>>>>>>>> but to a lesser extent. This may be due to FOI pages being much > >>>>>>>>>> more older > >>>>>>>>>> and popular due availability of images on their pages since the > >>>>>>>>>> beginning, > >>>>>>>>>> while we have started adding images only since last two years. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> May I request others to comment in the matter pl. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 9 November 2017 at 16:37, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I further checked up with google search to find out about all > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> species in efi in this genus. > >>>>>>>>>>> Results are as below: > >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis clematidea - efloraofindia - Google Sites > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we > b&cd=15&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiI2-_jqLHXAhWGsI8KHatEBfc4 > ChAWCDwwBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fef > loraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonops > is%2Fcodonopsis-clematidea&usg=AOvVaw0bLOQsnSQ5r2Rg1psNJ3y8> > >>>>>>>>>>> (appeared > >>>>>>>>>>> at 15th place) > >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis ovata - efloraofindia - Google Sites > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we > b&cd=12&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi-yOKJrLHXAhUGpY8KHRkPA744 > ChAWCCswAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fef > loraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonops > is%2Fcodonopsis-ovata&usg=AOvVaw2WzpGGC3em3_ucZTwxRxwV> > >>>>>>>>>>> (appeared > >>>>>>>>>>> at 11th place) > >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis gracilis - efloraofindia - Google Sites > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we > b&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjW0cierLHXAhWHpY8KHaSOAWoQF > gg7MAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofi > ndia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis% > 2Fcodonopsis-gracilis&usg=AOvVaw35jYzSnEIZaYLqaoZIup3Q> > >>>>>>>>>>> (appeared > >>>>>>>>>>> at 2nd place) > >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis rotundifolia - efloraofindia - Google Sites > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we > b&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjSyuOVqK7XAhUERY8KHcfSD1cQF > ghHMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofi > ndia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis% > 2Fcodonopsis-rotundifolia&usg=AOvVaw17zlAH_kwKmstZPW6VFRyN> > >>>>>>>>>>> (appeared > >>>>>>>>>>> at 4th place) > >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis pilosula > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-pilosula> > >>>>>>>>>>> (does > >>>>>>>>>>> not appear on simple search, but appears on top while searching > >>>>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>> efloraofindia word) > >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis lanceolata > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-lanceolata> > >>>>>>>>>>> (does > >>>>>>>>>>> not appear on simple search, but appears on top while searching > >>>>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>> efloraofindia word) > >>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis viridis > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis> > >>>>>>>>>>> (Does > >>>>>>>>>>> not appear even on search at Codonopsis viridis + > efloraofindia) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone explain this ? I am unable to understand this. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 8 November 2017 at 11:42, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Anil ji, > >>>>>>>>>>>> This is really strange. In both ways I could not find efi page > >>>>>>>>>>>> on Codonopsis viridis (page created on 11/2/11). > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> But for search on Codonopsis rotundifolia, this page appeared > >>>>>>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4th place like Codonopsis rotundifolia - efloraofindia - > Google > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sites > >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we > b&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjSyuOVqK7XAhUERY8KHcfSD1cQF > ghHMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofi > ndia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis% > 2Fcodonopsis-rotundifolia&usg=AOvVaw17zlAH_kwKmstZPW6VFRyN> > >>>>>>>>>>>> (page > >>>>>>>>>>>> created on 26/8/12). > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> What could be the reason ? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 November 2017 at 11:06, Anil Thakur < > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Garg ji > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think, there is no problem in searches on efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>>>>>> page. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you search in google, most of the time you will not get > >>>>>>>>>>>>> results for your > >>>>>>>>>>>>> search due to lack of tags. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I searched for Codonopsis viridis and found no results in > >>>>>>>>>>>>> google. When searched for Codonopsis viridis and > efloraofindia, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the results > >>>>>>>>>>>>> appeared. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08-Nov-2017 10:41 AM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, everybody, for the overwhelming feedback. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The main purpose was to know as to whether our moderators > are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware about this or not. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It carries many advantage over manual browsing as it shows > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> results of similar/ confusing species also. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will explain this by giving an example. e.g. On searching > on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *''Codonopsis > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> viridis''*, I got the following results in the following > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> order: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis viridis > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis rotundifolia > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-rotundifolia> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Campanulaceae > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valley of flowers- List of plants > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site > /efloraofindia/general-eposts/general-efi-posts/treks-walks- > trips-talks-etc---details/list-of-plants> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above shows that results have been shown on priority > with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> main search page being shown first. Genera page Codonopsis > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shown because it contains details of all the species > including > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the searched > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. Codonopsis rotundifolia > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-rotundifolia> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shown as it has been confused with the searched species in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some earlier efi > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions. In fact two of the posts of Codonopsis > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotundifolia > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-rotundifolia> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were wrongly identified earlier as Codonopsis viridis > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis>, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I corrected yesterday. Family page of Campanulaceae > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shown as it contains comparative images of all the > Codonopsis > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> species > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including that of the searched one. Valley of flowers- List > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of plants > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site > /efloraofindia/general-eposts/general-efi-posts/treks-walks- > trips-talks-etc---details/list-of-plants> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also shown as it also contains the name of plants found in > the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> valley of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> flowers. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above search results tells you a lot of things, which > may > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be helpful to the searcher in many ways including getting > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proper > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> identification. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e,g. if somebody posts images of Codonopsis viridis, while > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including in efi site, I will search on Codonopsis viridis > and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> get these > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> results. Than I will open both pages of Codonopsis viridis > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Codonopsis rotundifolia > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-rotundifolia> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate windows. After going through images at both species > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages, I will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conclude to myself whether posted species has been correctly > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> identified or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. If it does not match with images at either of the > pages, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than I will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also open the page of Codonopsis > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ > c/campanulaceae/codonopsis> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing the comparative images and finally nailing down the > id > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> & advising so > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the group. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope this exercise has lessons to those who are not aware > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the importance of this aspect. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pl. give your feedback, if you feel it has been of some use > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 November 2017 at 14:37, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May I request you to pl. let me know who has used search in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efi > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/home> & > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who has not. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just for my curiosity & to know the acquaintance of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members in this matter so that it is highlighted to > members, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if required. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just a simple *yes* or *no* will do. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site > /efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-group > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (largest > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> > (with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> images). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds, Butterflies, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also use them > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site > /efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-group > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (largest > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> > (with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> images). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of > more > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also use them > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> image. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & > Common > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "ITPmods" group. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods > . > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "ITPmods" group. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-eflor > aofindia> > >>>>>>>>>>>> . > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of > >>>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google > >>>>>>>>>>>> e-group <https://groups.google.com/for > um/#!forum/indiantreepix> > >>>>>>>>>>>> (largest > >>>>>>>>>>>> in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on > >>>>>>>>>>>> 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with > a > >>>>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 > >>>>>>>>>>>> images). > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource > >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more > >>>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can > also > >>>>>>>>>>>> use them > >>>>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each > >>>>>>>>>>>> image. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common > >>>>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, > >>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-eflor > aofindia> > >>>>>>>>>>> . > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of > >>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google > >>>>>>>>>>> e-group > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> > (largest > >>>>>>>>>>> in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on > 31.3.17) > >>>>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a > >>>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 > images). > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource > >>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more > >>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, > >>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, > >>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can > also > >>>>>>>>>>> use them > >>>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each > >>>>>>>>>>> image. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common > >>>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> With regards, > >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-eflor > aofindia> > >>>>>>>>>> . > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of > >>>>>>>>>> Indian > >>>>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> > (largest > >>>>>>>>>> in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on > 31.3.17) > >>>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a > >>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource > >>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more > >>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, > >>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, > >>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also > >>>>>>>>>> use them > >>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each > >>>>>>>>>> image. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common > >>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> With regards, > >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-eflor > aofindia> > >>>>>>>> . > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian > >>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest > in > >>>>>>>> the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or > >>>>>>>> Efloraofindia > >>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a > >>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource > >>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more > than > >>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, > >>>>>>>> Plants > >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them > >>>>>>>> for free > >>>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common > Birds > >>>>>>>> of India'. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >>>>>> send > >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. > >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >>>>> an email to [email protected]. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. > >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> With regards, > >>>> J.M.Garg > >>>> > >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > >>>> > >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia > >. > >>>> > >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian > >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in > the > >>>> world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or > >>>> Efloraofindia > >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a > species > >>>> database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). > >>>> > >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource > >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants > >>>> etc. > >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free > >>>> as > >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > >>>> > >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > >>>> India'. > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> With regards, > >> J.M.Garg > >> > >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > >> > >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > >> > >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian > Flora, > >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > >> world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or > >> Efloraofindia > >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > >> database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). > >> > >> The whole world uses my Image Resource > >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants > >> etc. > >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free > as > >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > >> > >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > >> India'. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > With regards, > > J.M.Garg > > > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > > world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or > Efloraofindia > > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > > database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). > > > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants > etc. > > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > > > > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > > India'. > > > > > -- > With best Regards, > > Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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