After searching all the available literature I am convinced that the plant
depicted in this mail by me(Both the sets of pictures) is *Grewia tiliifolia
*(And not *G.asiatica*)
Attaching a table showing the differences compiled together.
If there are any mistakes and errors please correct me.
Agreed that it is a big tree but the species observed by me happen to be
small shrub like tree which might attain huge height.
Regards
Dr Phadke Satish

  * *

*Grewia tiliifolia*

*Grewia asiatica*

*Synonyms*

*G.tilaefolia;Grewia tiliifolia var.leptopetala,G.inequalis*

*G.subinaequalis*

*Local Names*

*Dhaman; Rodgi;Sonsaman;Tadsal(BSI)*

*Phalsi(BSI);Phalsa*

*Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

*Wild, common in deciduous forests*

*Cultivated for fruits; also found wild*

*Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *

*Large tree 3-8m(BSI)30-35 Feet;bark pale brown(Cooke)*

*Large shrub or small tree(BSI; EfP)*

*Stipules*

*Foliaceous(BSI);Leafy falcate,auricledwith a rounded lobe on the lower
side,veined(Cooke), Leafy falcate auriculate(Brandis)*

*Not foliaceous,broadly ovate or suborbicular(BSI),Linear lanceolate(Cooke)
Linear(Brandis)Hairy narrowly oblique-lanceolate,falcate(EfP)Linear
lanceolate acute,Nearly as long as the petiole(Cooke)*

*Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- *

*1.5-11.583.2-6cm(BSI)Ovate,acuminate at apex;obliquely cordate at base.
Margins serrate to crenulate serrate. Glabrescent above, pubescent or
tomentose beneath(BSI)6 nerves on the leaf 3 on the larger and 2 on the
smaller side of midrib(Cooke)*

*7.5-16*6-12.5cm(BSI);Ovate to orbiculate(EfP)Acute or subacuminate at apex.
Obliquely cordate or rounded at base(BSI). Scabrous(rough)above,tomentose
below(EfP).Both half more symmetric.(Neil)Petiole 1/2 inch long thicker at
the top(Cooke)*

*Inflorescence Type/ Size- *

*Cymose(BSI)Buds obovoid oblong or subglobose,tomentose(Cooke)*

*Umbellate cymes(BSI) Cymes 3 flowered,peduncle2-3cm(EfP)Buds obovate oblong
ribbed,pubescent(Cooke)*

*Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

*Yellow, stamens many,Petals bifid or notched at apex or entire or slightly
emarginate at apex(BSI) Petals half long as sepals,oblong spathulate entire
or notched,ovary villous,style longer than stamens(Cooke)*

*Yellow bracteate,stamens many(BSI) Orange yellow,2cm across,pedicel
1.5cm,Stamens numerous(EfP)Petals 2/3the length od sepals(Cooke)*

*Petal gland; Ovary stigma*

*0.5mm long(BSI)Stigma 4 lobed(EfP) gland 1/3 the length of petal,stigma
somewhat irregularly 5 lobed(Cooke)*

*Petal gland with white hairy margins(BSI)Ovary globose,strigose,stigma
indistinctly 4 lobed(EfP)Gland 1/3 the length of petal,ovary villous(Cooke)*

*Drupes*

*0.5-0.7 cm across,entire or 2 lobed,sparsely hirsute(BSI)*

*Globose,1-2 lobed hairy(BSI)(Cooke)*

*Fls. And fruits*

*Apr-Jun*

*Apr-Sep*


On 26 April 2010 23:19, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorry again.
> My interpretation seems to be exactly opposite. Is the plant depicted in
> the picture *G tiliifolia* then? Can somebody please elaborate?
> BSI Mah flora also says they are foliaceous in G.tiliifolia.
>
>
> On 26 April 2010 23:12, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for sending bigger size image.
>>
>>
>> On 26 April 2010 23:10, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Pursuing the search about the differentiating characters I checked for
>>> the stipules of the plant today. They are foliaceous in G.asiatica which is
>>> clearly seen in the attached picture while they are linear lanceolate in
>>> G.tiliifolia.
>>> Attaching some pictures showing it and part of the key from Cooke's
>>> flora.
>>> My earlier pictures do not show them clearly.
>>> I would like to request Prashant ji to show some picture of G.tiliifolia
>>> with stipules if he has any such picture in his collection.
>>> The glands near the petals are difficult to recognise from the available
>>> pictures.
>>> Regards
>>> Dr Phadke Satish
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 April 2010 20:33, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This small tree is also flowering on Vetal Tekdi(Pune) at present.
>>>> I hope the ID is correct. There are many plants in the area some are 6
>>>> feet while the largest are 12-15 feet high or even may be larger.
>>>> I was told this same tree by different IDs by many including some
>>>> botanists,often as Grewia tilifolia and Grewia asiatica.
>>>> Requesting for correct ID(Of course if possible by looking at the
>>>> visible characters in the picture)
>>>> Leaf size biggest noted is 18-20cm. Flower size 1 cm.
>>>> Dr Phadke Satish
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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