After searching all the available literature I am convinced that the plant depicted in this mail by me(Both the sets of pictures) is *Grewia tiliifolia *(And not *G.asiatica*) Attaching a table showing the differences compiled together. If there are any mistakes and errors please correct me. Agreed that it is a big tree but the species observed by me happen to be small shrub like tree which might attain huge height. Regards Dr Phadke Satish
* * *Grewia tiliifolia* *Grewia asiatica* *Synonyms* *G.tilaefolia;Grewia tiliifolia var.leptopetala,G.inequalis* *G.subinaequalis* *Local Names* *Dhaman; Rodgi;Sonsaman;Tadsal(BSI)* *Phalsi(BSI);Phalsa* *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-* *Wild, common in deciduous forests* *Cultivated for fruits; also found wild* *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- * *Large tree 3-8m(BSI)30-35 Feet;bark pale brown(Cooke)* *Large shrub or small tree(BSI; EfP)* *Stipules* *Foliaceous(BSI);Leafy falcate,auricledwith a rounded lobe on the lower side,veined(Cooke), Leafy falcate auriculate(Brandis)* *Not foliaceous,broadly ovate or suborbicular(BSI),Linear lanceolate(Cooke) Linear(Brandis)Hairy narrowly oblique-lanceolate,falcate(EfP)Linear lanceolate acute,Nearly as long as the petiole(Cooke)* *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- * *1.5-11.583.2-6cm(BSI)Ovate,acuminate at apex;obliquely cordate at base. Margins serrate to crenulate serrate. Glabrescent above, pubescent or tomentose beneath(BSI)6 nerves on the leaf 3 on the larger and 2 on the smaller side of midrib(Cooke)* *7.5-16*6-12.5cm(BSI);Ovate to orbiculate(EfP)Acute or subacuminate at apex. Obliquely cordate or rounded at base(BSI). Scabrous(rough)above,tomentose below(EfP).Both half more symmetric.(Neil)Petiole 1/2 inch long thicker at the top(Cooke)* *Inflorescence Type/ Size- * *Cymose(BSI)Buds obovoid oblong or subglobose,tomentose(Cooke)* *Umbellate cymes(BSI) Cymes 3 flowered,peduncle2-3cm(EfP)Buds obovate oblong ribbed,pubescent(Cooke)* *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-* *Yellow, stamens many,Petals bifid or notched at apex or entire or slightly emarginate at apex(BSI) Petals half long as sepals,oblong spathulate entire or notched,ovary villous,style longer than stamens(Cooke)* *Yellow bracteate,stamens many(BSI) Orange yellow,2cm across,pedicel 1.5cm,Stamens numerous(EfP)Petals 2/3the length od sepals(Cooke)* *Petal gland; Ovary stigma* *0.5mm long(BSI)Stigma 4 lobed(EfP) gland 1/3 the length of petal,stigma somewhat irregularly 5 lobed(Cooke)* *Petal gland with white hairy margins(BSI)Ovary globose,strigose,stigma indistinctly 4 lobed(EfP)Gland 1/3 the length of petal,ovary villous(Cooke)* *Drupes* *0.5-0.7 cm across,entire or 2 lobed,sparsely hirsute(BSI)* *Globose,1-2 lobed hairy(BSI)(Cooke)* *Fls. And fruits* *Apr-Jun* *Apr-Sep* On 26 April 2010 23:19, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry again. > My interpretation seems to be exactly opposite. Is the plant depicted in > the picture *G tiliifolia* then? Can somebody please elaborate? > BSI Mah flora also says they are foliaceous in G.tiliifolia. > > > On 26 April 2010 23:12, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sorry for sending bigger size image. >> >> >> On 26 April 2010 23:10, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Pursuing the search about the differentiating characters I checked for >>> the stipules of the plant today. They are foliaceous in G.asiatica which is >>> clearly seen in the attached picture while they are linear lanceolate in >>> G.tiliifolia. >>> Attaching some pictures showing it and part of the key from Cooke's >>> flora. >>> My earlier pictures do not show them clearly. >>> I would like to request Prashant ji to show some picture of G.tiliifolia >>> with stipules if he has any such picture in his collection. >>> The glands near the petals are difficult to recognise from the available >>> pictures. >>> Regards >>> Dr Phadke Satish >>> >>> >>> >>> On 15 April 2010 20:33, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> This small tree is also flowering on Vetal Tekdi(Pune) at present. >>>> I hope the ID is correct. There are many plants in the area some are 6 >>>> feet while the largest are 12-15 feet high or even may be larger. >>>> I was told this same tree by different IDs by many including some >>>> botanists,often as Grewia tilifolia and Grewia asiatica. >>>> Requesting for correct ID(Of course if possible by looking at the >>>> visible characters in the picture) >>>> Leaf size biggest noted is 18-20cm. Flower size 1 cm. >>>> Dr Phadke Satish >>>> >>> >>> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en.

