Hi, Tabish ji.
Your views pl.

On Wed 8 Aug, 2018, 5:25 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, Tabish ji,
> Capparis cartilaginea Decne. has been mentioned in Flora of Pakistan
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250063260>,
> POWO <http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:327918-2>
> and Catalogue of Life (which is based on most latest taxonomic accounts)
> with distribution in West Pakistan, W. Indian Ocean and Gujrat
> respectively.
>
> A taxonomic revision of the Capparis spinosa group (Capparaceae) from the
> Mediterranean to Central Asia
> <http://www.mapress.com/phytotaxa/content/2014/f/pt00174p024.pdf> Phytotaxa
> 174 (1): 001–024 (2014) by SILVIO FICI states that material collected in
> rocky habitats east of Rhadamès (*Largeau 41*), belongs to this variety
> (i.e. *Capparis spinosa subsp. rupestris var. myrtifolia *(Inocencio, D.
> Rivera, Obón & Alcaraz) Fici, *comb. et stat. nov*.). This specimen was 
> erroneously
> referred to *C. galeata *Fresenius [= *C. spinosa *subsp*. cartilaginea 
> *(Decne.)
> Maire & Weiller] by Durand & Barratte (1910); records of the latter taxon
> in Libya and other areas of northern Africa appear doubtful and are probably
> due to confusion with *C. spinosa *subsp. *rupestris *(Jafri 1977).
>
> Thus the same species i.e. *C. spinosa *subsp*. cartilaginea *(Decne.)
> Maire & Weiller and information has been relied upon to call our plant in
> Gujrat and Pakistan as per Capparis cartilaginea Decne.
>
> Silvio Fici has covered the whole Cappris spinosa group and as our plant
> posted by Pravin ji and other similar observations from Gujrat, matches
> best with *Capparis spinosa* subsp. *spinosa* var. *aegyptia* (Lam.)
> Boissier
> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/capparaceae/capparis/capparis-cartilaginea>
>  as
> per details and keys in the taxonomic revision. On searching I found that
> no specimen has been examined by him from Gujrat.
>
> On 8 August 2018 at 16:27, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Garg ji,
>>     As I had mentioned before, *Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa var.
>> aegyptia* has no distribution in India, according to Phytotaxa 174 (1):
>> 001–024 (2014) by SILVIO FICI. So Pravin Kawale's plant which was found
>> in India, should be something else.
>>     Tabish
>> -------------------------------------------
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>>
>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 11:09 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Tabish ji,
>>> Correction is still due in FOI.
>>>
>>> On Sun 29 Jul, 2018, 7:04 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Under Capparis spinosa subsp. rupestris var. myrtifolia (Inocencio, D.
>>>> Rivera, Obón & Alcaraz) Fici, comb. et stat. nov.:*
>>>> Material collected in rocky habitats east of Rhadamès (*Largeau 41*),
>>>> belongs to this variety. This specimen was erroneously referred to *C.
>>>> galeata *Fresenius [= *C. spinosa *subsp*. cartilaginea *(Decne.)
>>>> Maire & Weiller] by Durand & Barratte (1910); records of the latter
>>>> taxon in Libya and other areas of northern Africa appear doubtful and are 
>>>> probably
>>>> due to confusion with *C. spinosa *subsp. *rupestris *(Jafri 1977).
>>>>
>>>> *Under references*:
>>>> Rivera, D., Friis, I., Inocencio, C., Obón, C., Alcaraz, F. & Reales,
>>>> A. (2003b) The typification of *Capparis inermis *Forssk., *C. sinaica
>>>> *Veill. and *C. cartilaginea *Decne. (Capparaceae). *Taxon *52:
>>>> 307–311.
>>>>
>>>> http://dx.doi.org/10.2307/3647402
>>>> Catalogue of Life
>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/70c82962c81b54064e36a4236e096aaa/synonym/d2af28884d4898fc1f445891d2f96ffd>
>>>>  gives
>>>> *Capparis cartilaginea* Decaisne as a syn. of *Capparis spinosa *var.*
>>>> aegyptia* (Lam.) Boiss.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29 July 2018 at 18:25, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Garg ji,
>>>>>    This paper does not mention* Capparis cartilaginea* *Decne*.
>>>>> Moreover *Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa var. aegyptia* has no
>>>>> distribution in India. According to
>>>>> http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:327918-2
>>>>> *Capparis cartilaginea Decne.* is accepted, and its native range is
>>>>> Egypt to Tanzania, W. Asia to India, Arabian Pen, W. Indian Ocean. In the
>>>>> description, the fruit is mentioned as red, in agreement with Pravin
>>>>> Kawale's image.
>>>>>    Tabish
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:06 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Capparis cartilaginea in FOI
>>>>>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Cartilage%20Caper.html>-
>>>>>> Current name is *Capparis spinosa* subsp. *spinosa* var. *aegyptia*
>>>>>> (Lam.) Boissier
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/capparaceae/capparis/capparis-cartilaginea>
>>>>>>  as
>>>>>> per A taxonomic revision of the Capparis spinosa group (Capparaceae)
>>>>>> from the Mediterraneanto Central Asia
>>>>>> <http://www.mapress.com/phytotaxa/content/2014/f/pt00174p024.pdf> 
>>>>>> Phytotaxa
>>>>>> 174 (1): 001–024 (2014) by SILVIO FICI
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>
>
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> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>
> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
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>
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> India'.
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