Thanks a lot, Silvio ji. On 30 August 2018 at 16:26, Silvio Fici <silvio.f...@unipa.it> wrote:
> Dear J.M. Garg, > > I confirm the current name C. spinosa subsp. cartilaginea (Decne.) > Maire & Weiller > For the second one that you reportd below, this is var. parviflora not > var. aegyptia > > Regards > Silvio > > > > " <jmga...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > Hi, Tabish ji, >> Capparis cartilaginea Decne. has been mentioned in Flora of Pakistan >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250063260>, >> POWO >> <http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:327918-2> and >> Catalogue of Life (which is based on most latest taxonomic accounts) with >> distribution in West Pakistan, W. Indian Ocean and Gujrat respectively. >> >> A taxonomic revision of the Capparis spinosa group (Capparaceae) from the >> Mediterranean to Central Asia >> <http://www.mapress.com/phytotaxa/content/2014/f/pt00174p024.pdf> >> Phytotaxa >> 174 (1): 001–024 (2014) by SILVIO FICI states that material collected in >> rocky habitats east of Rhadamès (*Largeau 41*), belongs to this variety >> (i.e. *Capparis spinosa subsp. rupestris var. myrtifolia *(Inocencio, D. >> Rivera, Obón & Alcaraz) Fici, *comb. et stat. nov*.). This specimen >> was erroneously >> referred to *C. galeata *Fresenius [= *C. spinosa *subsp*. >> cartilaginea *(Decne.) >> Maire & Weiller] by Durand & Barratte (1910); records of the latter taxon >> in Libya and other areas of northern Africa appear doubtful and are >> probably >> due to confusion with *C. spinosa *subsp. *rupestris *(Jafri 1977). >> >> Thus the same species i.e. *C. spinosa *subsp*. cartilaginea *(Decne.) >> Maire & Weiller and information has been relied upon to call our plant in >> Gujrat and Pakistan as per Capparis cartilaginea Decne. >> >> Silvio Fici has covered the whole Cappris spinosa group and as our plant >> posted by Pravin ji and other similar observations from Gujrat, matches >> best with *Capparis spinosa* subsp. *spinosa* var. *aegyptia* (Lam.) >> Boissier >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ >> c/capparaceae/capparis/capparis-cartilaginea> >> as >> per details and keys in the taxonomic revision. On searching I found that >> no specimen has been examined by him from Gujrat. >> >> On 8 August 2018 at 16:27, Tabish <tabi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Dear Garg ji, >>> As I had mentioned before, *Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa var. >>> aegyptia* has no distribution in India, according to Phytotaxa 174 (1): >>> 001–024 (2014) by SILVIO FICI. So Pravin Kawale's plant which was found >>> in India, should be something else. >>> Tabish >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 11:09 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Tabish ji, >>>> Correction is still due in FOI. >>>> >>>> On Sun 29 Jul, 2018, 7:04 PM J.M. Garg, <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> *Under Capparis spinosa subsp. rupestris var. myrtifolia (Inocencio, D. >>>>> Rivera, Obón & Alcaraz) Fici, comb. et stat. nov.:* >>>>> Material collected in rocky habitats east of Rhadamès (*Largeau 41*), >>>>> belongs to this variety. This specimen was erroneously referred to *C. >>>>> galeata *Fresenius [= *C. spinosa *subsp*. cartilaginea *(Decne.) Maire >>>>> & Weiller] by Durand & Barratte (1910); records of the latter taxon in >>>>> Libya and other areas of northern Africa appear doubtful and are >>>>> probably >>>>> due to confusion with *C. spinosa *subsp. *rupestris *(Jafri 1977). >>>>> >>>>> *Under references*: >>>>> Rivera, D., Friis, I., Inocencio, C., Obón, C., Alcaraz, F. & Reales, >>>>> A. >>>>> (2003b) The typification of *Capparis inermis *Forssk., *C. sinaica >>>>> *Veill. >>>>> and *C. cartilaginea *Decne. (Capparaceae). *Taxon *52: 307–311. >>>>> >>>>> http://dx.doi.org/10.2307/3647402 >>>>> Catalogue of Life >>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/70c82 >>>>> 962c81b54064e36a4236e096aaa/synonym/d2af28884d4898fc1f445891d2f96ffd> >>>>> gives >>>>> *Capparis cartilaginea* Decaisne as a syn. of *Capparis spinosa *var.* >>>>> aegyptia* (Lam.) Boiss. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29 July 2018 at 18:25, Tabish <tabi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Garg ji, >>>>>> This paper does not mention* Capparis cartilaginea* *Decne*. >>>>>> Moreover *Capparis spinosa subsp. spinosa var. aegyptia* has no >>>>>> distribution in India. According to http://powo.science.kew.org/ >>>>>> taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:327918-2 >>>>>> *Capparis cartilaginea Decne.* is accepted, and its native range is >>>>>> Egypt to Tanzania, W. Asia to India, Arabian Pen, W. Indian Ocean. In >>>>>> the >>>>>> description, the fruit is mentioned as red, in agreement with Pravin >>>>>> Kawale's image. >>>>>> Tabish >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:06 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Capparis cartilaginea in FOI >>>>>>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Cartilage%20C >>>>>>> aper.html>- >>>>>>> Current name is *Capparis spinosa* subsp. *spinosa* var. *aegyptia* >>>>>>> (Lam.) Boissier >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ >>>>>>> c/capparaceae/capparis/capparis-cartilaginea> as >>>>>>> per A taxonomic revision of the Capparis spinosa group (Capparaceae) >>>>>>> from the Mediterraneanto Central Asia >>>>>>> <http://www.mapress.com/phytotaxa/content/2014/f/pt00174p024.pdf> >>>>>>> Phytotaxa >>>>>>> 174 (1): 001–024 (2014) by SILVIO FICI >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>>> the world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or >>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>> Plants etc. >>>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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