Dear Ushadi,

Thank you for your valuable tips.

I am an absolute amateur in Botany as well as in photography. I have a deep
interest in flora, not so much plying the camera! But since one needs that
skill to identify and learn about plants, will work on it.

I am currently using my phone to take pics.

Once again your encouragement and lessons much appreciated.


Devi.


On Saturday, 22 September 2018, Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>
wrote:

> devi: since you are very cooperative and willing to go back etc i offer
> you my personal thoughts here.
>
> id is not magic, its a systematic looking at diagnostic features to arrive
> at a working hypothesis,
> better the pictures that  are sharp in focus  show the diagnostic
> criteria  better and quicker the process
>
>
> there is a lesson  to be learned n this case, we still do not know what it
> is... only guesswork
>
> so...
> 1: known entity read up or remember
>  diagnostic features of any plant
> that you are interested in
> and take pictures accordingly
>
> 2: unknown identity
> its habit and habitat
> leaves , both sides, and see if can see trichomes or hairs, then try to
> show them
> flowers face and side views
> complete pedicals, peduncles, subtening appendages if any
> if inflorescence a complete inflorescence, how its growing, its pattern
> if buds are seen several buds
> if fruits complete view sideways, its attachment to the twig,
> and include a sizing item in at least one picture, like a ruler, a pen,
> camera cap ,.
> or  your finger as a last resort, often we have nothing handy or are in a
> hurry.
> if a tree...include the stem, bark etc
> if a shrub, entire shrub
> etc etc
>
> when you have even ten minutes to hone your skills in this direction
> go to this link...  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix
> its this group ...
> and type any of these peoples name, you choose and look at their pictures
>
> by observing pictures taken by Dinesh Valke, Anurag Sharma (who did a lot
> of field work.)
>
>  Prashant Awale, and Satish Phadke, and Pankaj Kumar .  to name few
>
> they all dont use fancy cameras, Anurag used a small handheld
>
> point and shoot, Prashant uses something handy also.
>
>
>
> you will do well
>
> good luck
>
> usha di
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 6:23 AM, Devi Nair <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you , Ushadi.
>>
>> As I have mentioned this plant is different from the one I had sent
>> earlier although it is from the same area. To me the leaves seemed very
>> different.
>>
>> I am not familiar with the book you have mentioned but will now take a
>> look.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 21 September 2018, Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> i see fine hairs on the fallen flower,
>>> though none on the leaves
>>> still think... argyreia
>>>
>>> Dalia had sent us a very similar case with  only one picture as possible
>>> ipomoea
>>> final id: Argyreia involucrata
>>>
>>> shrikant had ided it then
>>> may be he can help Devi with this case
>>>
>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl
>>> /convolvulaceae/argyreia/argyreia-involucrata
>>>
>>> may be Devi is familiar with this publication, and people Dr Mathew
>>> trained locally...
>>> An Excursion Flora of Central Tamilnadu, India
>>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=umMFT6tKtrkC&pg=PA324&lpg=PA324&dq=Argyreia+involucrata&source=bl&ots=1CKN1YNEh-&sig=M1s30uJMD-VZU0Ai9-yyncrVJfg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwilsu2LxvraAhVEvI8KHSekB1A4ChDoAQg-MAQ#v=onepage&q=Argyreia%20involucrata&f=false>
>>>  By K. M. Matthew (1995- details with keys)
>>>
>>> hope this helps
>>> good luck
>>> usha di
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Devi Nair <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Garg’ji.
>>>>
>>>> For comparison attaching pictures of another plant from the same area.
>>>> Maybe this is Argyreia?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 21 September 2018, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks different from images of *Argyreia sericea*
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/convolvulaceae/argyreia/argyreia-sericea>
>>>>>  Dalzell
>>>>> Also does not match with any species available at *Argyreia*
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/convolvulaceae/argyreia>
>>>>>  as
>>>>> per comparative images.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Earlier feedback:*
>>>>> *seems to be Argyreia sericea*
>>>>> *do you by any chance have pics of the side view of the
>>>>> flower...complete side view*
>>>>> *and close up of the surfaces of the leaves ?? if so, pleae share here*
>>>>> *thanks *
>>>>> *usha di*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *---------- Forwarded message ----------From: Devi Nair* <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> Date: 1 September 2018 at 07:08
>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:303599] Creeper for ID
>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Found growing in Thally, Tamilnadu.
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>>
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