I think Flora of China does not list both the Species- so that comparison
can be made.


On Tue 9 Oct, 2018, 6:41 PM Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china//PDF/PDF12/Elaeocarpus.pdf  ???
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:27 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. You mean to say the posted plant here is Elaeocarpus
>> grandiflorus with slightly broader leaves.
>> Is their no other substantial difference which can be observed in images ?
>>
>> We have similar confusion in our posts at Elaeocarpus hainanensis
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/elaeaocarpaceae/elaeocarpus/elaeocarpus-hainanensis>.
>> Pl. see. If we follow this suggestion, all our posts except yours and Saroj
>> ji's may be Elaeocarpus grandiflorus.
>> Can we get detailed keys somewhere to authoritatively sort out these
>> species ?
>>
>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 07:29, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One of my friends in China says the one with broader leaf is
>>> grandiflorus. It is not reported from HK or China in wild.
>>> Pankaj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 06:25, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will recheck and get back to you. Obviously both are Elaeocarpus, on
>>>> with denticulate margin and narrow leaf is surely hainanensis. Need to
>>>> confirm second one.
>>>> Thanks..
>>>> Pankaj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 00:07, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> great, i am relieved
>>>>> the serrated leaves had bothered me,
>>>>> i even mentioned the serration,
>>>>> my  mistake was not to think laterally into another group altogether.
>>>>> thanksPankaj
>>>>> learned a lesson
>>>>>
>>>>> so i agree this is as you say  Elaeocarpus hainanensis.
>>>>>
>>>>> iti
>>>>>
>>>>> usha di
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is Elaeocarpus hainanensis.
>>>>>> Kindly look at the bracts on the inflorescence. Very typical.
>>>>>> Who has seen that bract and serrate leaf in Cerbera manghas?
>>>>>> Thanks and regards
>>>>>> Pankaj
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 12:32, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, it should be :Thanks, Mahadeswara ji
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed 19 Sep, 2018, 10:01 AM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Saroj ji
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed 19 Sep, 2018, 8:53 AM Mahadeswara, <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pictures posted are not of *C.monghas*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 2:53:13 AM UTC+5:30, Ushadi
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> swaroj ji
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i am confused too
>>>>>>>>>> is not your post here a cerbera?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i hope pankaj looks at the pictures again
>>>>>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Pankaj,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is your comment on my right post ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 2:59 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 1:06 PM Pankaj Kumar, <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elaeocarpus hainanensis I meant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 15:37, Pankaj Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting. Few days back you asked me if this fruits or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is ocarpus hainanensis, in fruits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a native tree to Hong Kong. Protected in Hong Kong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for sharing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 01:09, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cerbera sp?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here the leaves are finely serrated (they are entire in c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> odollam as i have seen )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the twigs bearing the fruit appear different than what i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seen on c. odollam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:00 PM, Saroj Kasaju <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location:  Victoria Harbour, Hong Kong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 13 August 2018
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 200 ft.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Cultivated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>
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