Because grandiflorus is said to be "not native to China". There are many exotic plants in HK planted by various people from time to time. So much so, that there are now two group of thoughts for few species. Some say species X is planted, some say it was once found in wild and what we see are just remaining plants.
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 22:11, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok Mr. Garg. > > Thnk you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 7:09 pm, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think Flora of China does not list both the Species- so that comparison >> can be made. >> >> >> On Tue 9 Oct, 2018, 6:41 PM Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china//PDF/PDF12/Elaeocarpus.pdf ??? >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:27 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. You mean to say the posted plant here is Elaeocarpus >>>> grandiflorus with slightly broader leaves. >>>> Is their no other substantial difference which can be observed in >>>> images ? >>>> >>>> We have similar confusion in our posts at Elaeocarpus hainanensis >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/elaeaocarpaceae/elaeocarpus/elaeocarpus-hainanensis>. >>>> Pl. see. If we follow this suggestion, all our posts except yours and Saroj >>>> ji's may be Elaeocarpus grandiflorus. >>>> Can we get detailed keys somewhere to authoritatively sort out these >>>> species ? >>>> >>>> On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 07:29, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> One of my friends in China says the one with broader leaf is >>>>> grandiflorus. It is not reported from HK or China in wild. >>>>> Pankaj >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 06:25, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I will recheck and get back to you. Obviously both are Elaeocarpus, >>>>>> on with denticulate margin and narrow leaf is surely hainanensis. Need to >>>>>> confirm second one. >>>>>> Thanks.. >>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 00:07, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> great, i am relieved >>>>>>> the serrated leaves had bothered me, >>>>>>> i even mentioned the serration, >>>>>>> my mistake was not to think laterally into another group altogether. >>>>>>> thanksPankaj >>>>>>> learned a lesson >>>>>>> >>>>>>> so i agree this is as you say Elaeocarpus hainanensis. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> iti >>>>>>> >>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is Elaeocarpus hainanensis. >>>>>>>> Kindly look at the bracts on the inflorescence. Very typical. >>>>>>>> Who has seen that bract and serrate leaf in Cerbera manghas? >>>>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 12:32, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry, it should be :Thanks, Mahadeswara ji >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed 19 Sep, 2018, 10:01 AM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Saroj ji >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed 19 Sep, 2018, 8:53 AM Mahadeswara, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pictures posted are not of *C.monghas* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 2:53:13 AM UTC+5:30, Ushadi >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> swaroj ji >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> i am confused too >>>>>>>>>>>> is not your post here a cerbera? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> i hope pankaj looks at the pictures again >>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Pankaj, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is your comment on my right post ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 2:59 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 18 Sep, 2018, 1:06 PM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elaeocarpus hainanensis I meant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 15:37, Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting. Few days back you asked me if this fruits or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is ocarpus hainanensis, in fruits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a native tree to Hong Kong. Protected in Hong Kong. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for sharing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 01:09, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cerbera sp? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here the leaves are finely serrated (they are entire in c >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> odollam as i have seen ) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the twigs bearing the fruit appear different than what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i seen on c. odollam. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:00 PM, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Victoria Harbour, Hong Kong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 13 August 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 200 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Cultivated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; 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