Ashwini
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Usha di
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On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 8:31 AM Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have been trying to establish the correct identity of our plantago
> species here. Since it is a difficult genus, it took me quite a while to
> reach some conclusion. Following our previous conversation I had started
> with *Plantago major* as the beginning point. Referring to the excellent 
> *Tibetan
> Medicinal Plants* edited by Christa Kletter and Monika Kriechbaum (I
> found a copy in a Tibetan library here) I started looking first at *Plantago
> depressa* because our plants do not always have noticeable broad leaves.
> Studying the visible characteristics was not enough to rule out depressa so
> I had to pull out two plants (something I don't enjoy doing) to look at the
> root structure. I found the younger of the two plants without any rootstock
> but the other *had a stocky rootstock, the bottom end of which looked cut*,
> which according to the key in the book ruled out depressa (which should
> have a taproot). Furthermore the *seedpods contained between 9 and 14
> tiny seeds each measuring roughly 1.2 mm*, strengthening the case for *P.
> major* complex (depressa should have 6-8, 2 mm each).
>
> Once I ruled out depressa, I started looking at plants similar to *P.
> major* (within the complex) that fit the description of our plants. A
> comment in the book said that *P. erosa* is difficult to tell apart from *P.
> major* but erosa has hairy leaves especially when they are young. I
> looked at young leaves and found them to be hairy. In fact there are
> scattered leaves even on the mature leaves. Also according to the key,
> erosa should have a continuous sepal keel, which again is true for our
> plants (I will appreciate if someone could confirm this looking at the
> photos).
>
> So *I am inclined to put our plants as P. erosa within the larger P.
> major complex*. Please advise.
>
> I found another pdf on the family here
> <http://ashipunov.info/shipunov/plantago/plantagineae_key.pdf>.
>
> All plants were photographed at roughly 1700-1800m altitude between 08-10
> May 2019 in Dharamshala, Himachal Pradesh.
>
> Thanks.
> Ashwini
>
> PS: Please note my new email address. Thanks.
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