I doubt this to be I. tinctoria on two counts

1. Leaflets are around 19, they are never more than 13 in I. inctoria
2. The shrub appears to be taller than I. tinctoria which is rarely more
than 1 m  tall


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On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> *Indigofera suffruticosa* is cultivated as an alternative to *I. tinctoria
> * for the production of the dye indigo. The two are quite distinct:
>
>
> *Indigofera tinctoria                          Indigofera suffruticosa*
>
> Small shrub, 50 cm- 100 cm tall                                        Small
> shrub 80 cm-150 cm tall
>
> Pubescence whitish
>                                     Pubescence grayish green
>
> Stipules 2mm long
> Stipules  4 mm long
>
> Leaflets 9-13, apex rounded to emarginate                     Leaflets
> 11-19, apex acute to rounded
>
> Petiole 1.3-2.5 cm long
> Petiole 1.5 cm long
>
> Racemes 2.5-9 cm long, lax
>  racemes 2-3 cm long, dense
>
> Bracts bristle-like, 1-1.5 mm long                                      bracts
> linear, 2 mm long
>
> Ovary glabrous
> ovary densely hairy
>
> Fruit straight to semicircular but never falcate               Fruit
> falcate
>
> Fruit  2.5-3 cm long
> fruit 1-1.5 cm
>
>
>
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> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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>
>
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Dear friends, ... at another forum, my friends have genuine doubts about
>> this plant being *I. tinctoria*.
>> Their thoughts: *I. tinctoria* is a small shrub, similar to *I.
>> suffruticosa* (in fact, they think both are synonymous).
>>
>> To me it looks like *I. tinctoria* (and dear Tabish too thinks similarly)
>> ... yet would like you to take a re-look and validate the ID.
>>
>>
>> Based my ID by referring these two links:
>> 1) ... The Indigo page ...
>> http://www.indigopage.com/herbal/indigofera.htm
>> 2) ... IMPGC ...
>> http://www.impgc.com/plantinfo_A.php?id=273&bc=Raw%20Herbs%20%BB%20Leaves
>>
>>
>> Facts:
>> Found the plant growing on hill slope, enroute Kas plateau in the ghat
>> region.
>> Best remembering it to be about 4 - 5 ft in height and about as much wide.
>>
>> Requesting you to refer the photographs for inferring ID.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:34 AM, tanay bose <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> The most well known one !! Great shot Dinesh ji
>>> Tanay
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> ... many thanks dear Tabish ... one more to go ... *I. trita*.
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Dinesh,
>>>>>  Wonderful exposition of various Indigo species!
>>>>>  Cheers!
>>>>>  - Tabish
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 29, 12:43 am, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > Fabaceae (pea, or legume family) » *Indigofera tinctoria* ((syn.
>>>>> *Indigofera
>>>>> > argentea, Indigofera sumatrana*)
>>>>> > ... also placed in Papilionaceae
>>>>> >
>>>>> > in-dee-GO-fer-uh -- bearing indigo
>>>>> > tink-TOR-ee-uh -- used in dyeing or has a sap which can stain
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *commonly known as*: true indigo • Bengali: নীল neel • Gujarati: નીલ
>>>>> neel •
>>>>> > Hindi: नील neel • Kannada: ajara, nili • Malayalam: amari, nilamari,
>>>>> nili •
>>>>> > Marathi: निळंबी nilambi, नीली nili • Sanskrit: नीली neeli, nilika,
>>>>> नीलिनी
>>>>> > nilini, rangapatri • Tamil: அவுரி avuri, நீலி nili • Telugu: అవిరి
>>>>> aviri,
>>>>> > నీలి nili
>>>>> > *
>>>>> > Native of*: tropical Africa, w Indian Ocean, Arabian Peninsula, s
>>>>> China,
>>>>> > Indian Subcontinent, Indo-China, Malesia, n Australia; widely
>>>>> naturalized /
>>>>> > cultivated; exact native range obscure
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *References*:
>>>>> >  • Flowers of India ...
>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/True%20Indigo.html
>>>>> >  • Indigo page ...http://www.indigopage.com/herbal/indigofera.htm
>>>>> >  • NPGS / GRIN ...
>>>>> http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?20064
>>>>> >  • ILDIS ...
>>>>> http://www.ildis.org/LegumeWeb?version~10.01&LegumeWeb&tno~2778&genus.<http://www.ildis.org/LegumeWeb?version%7E10.01&LegumeWeb&tno%7E2778&genus.>
>>>>> ..
>>>>> >  • M.M.P.N.D. ...
>>>>> http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Indigofera.html
>>>>> >  • DDSA ...http://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>>>>> ~ ~ ~
>>>>> > Views attached from:
>>>>> > ... enroute Kas plateau
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regards.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  1655034504_680d8bf0a8_b.jpg
>>>>> > 112KViewDownload
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  1650540475_c4c7492903_b.jpg
>>>>> > 105KViewDownload
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  1655002816_ff791a26be_b.jpg
>>>>> > 105KViewDownload
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