Thank you sir for the elaborate description. These images are from
Soureni, Darjeeling, India at 4200 ft.

Saroj Kasaju


On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 9:47 PM mcleodwild <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Saroj ji,
> I have been looking at our Plantago species here and finding it very
> difficult to identify with great certainty. First, to differentiate *P.
> asiatica* from *P. major* is a challenge. The flower stalk is absent on
> major but should be there on asiatica. However, the stalk is very short and
> difficult to see. Chromosome count is different but that is beyond my scope
> to check.
>
> According to *Tibetan Medicinal Plants* 'typical *P. erosa* is
> characterised by a loose spike and irregularly, jaggedly toothed leaves
> which are hairy (especially when young)' From your photos I can see that
> the shape of leaves fits the description but I cannot tell if they are
> hairy (small tufts of hairs on the teeth of some leaves are visible but I
> cannot see anything more. There are no young leaves). The spike doesn't
> appear loose to me and I cannot tell whether the sepal keel is continuous.
> I will keep these plants broadly under *Plantago major* for the time
> being. The authors go on to say that all samples collected by them in the
> Muktinath Valley were typical *P. major* and not *P. erosa*. They suspect
> that *P. erosa* might grow in lower altitudes.
>
> Experts are guarded in determining the species using the macroscopic
> characters only. Their language is guarded and they emphasise on the
> difficulties in distinguishing the species, subspecies and varieties in the
> field.
>
> I wish I could be of more help.
>
> Regards,
> Ashwini
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:46:18 UTC+5:30, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:
>>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Soureni, Mirik, India
>> Date: 21 April 2017
>> Altitude: 4200 ft.
>>
>> *Plantago erosa* Wall. (synonym)  ??
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
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