Thanks, Saroj ji.

On Fri, 24 May 2019 at 21:37, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Thank you sir for the elaborate description. These images are from
> Soureni, Darjeeling, India at 4200 ft.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 9:47 PM mcleodwild <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Saroj ji,
>> I have been looking at our Plantago species here and finding it very
>> difficult to identify with great certainty. First, to differentiate *P.
>> asiatica* from *P. major* is a challenge. The flower stalk is absent on
>> major but should be there on asiatica. However, the stalk is very short and
>> difficult to see. Chromosome count is different but that is beyond my scope
>> to check.
>>
>> According to *Tibetan Medicinal Plants* 'typical *P. erosa* is
>> characterised by a loose spike and irregularly, jaggedly toothed leaves
>> which are hairy (especially when young)' From your photos I can see that
>> the shape of leaves fits the description but I cannot tell if they are
>> hairy (small tufts of hairs on the teeth of some leaves are visible but I
>> cannot see anything more. There are no young leaves). The spike doesn't
>> appear loose to me and I cannot tell whether the sepal keel is continuous.
>> I will keep these plants broadly under *Plantago major* for the time
>> being. The authors go on to say that all samples collected by them in the
>> Muktinath Valley were typical *P. major* and not *P. erosa*. They
>> suspect that *P. erosa* might grow in lower altitudes.
>>
>> Experts are guarded in determining the species using the macroscopic
>> characters only. Their language is guarded and they emphasise on the
>> difficulties in distinguishing the species, subspecies and varieties in the
>> field.
>>
>> I wish I could be of more help.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ashwini
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:46:18 UTC+5:30, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Soureni, Mirik, India
>>> Date: 21 April 2017
>>> Altitude: 4200 ft.
>>>
>>> *Plantago erosa* Wall. (synonym)  ??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
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