Because most of the images in net, drawing and herbarium showing not serrated leaf. So I got confused. Very few images of leaves and FoP showing serrated images .
Meliosma simplicifolia (Roxb.) Walp. <http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:776329-1> Thank you. Saroj Kasaju On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:43 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Saroj ji, > I have worked on details and given these in my detailed reply. In such a > case, one should contradict only on facts or some links etc. > > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 21:41, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just a guess according to keys. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 6:15 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> How can you say that? >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J. M. Garg >>> >>> On Wed 31 Jul, 2019, 5:36 PM Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The tree is at a steep slope so could not get specimen. However, looks >>>> matching to M. thomsonii . Not sure 100 %. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 4:59 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Saroj ji, >>>>> Flora of China gives the following keys to different between the bold >>>>> species: >>>>> 18 (17) >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120161#KEY-1-17> >>>>> Leaf >>>>> blade abaxially densely lanuginous; sepals 5, outside with 4 or 5 equal >>>>> bracts. 8 *M. thomsonii* >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> + Leaf blade glabrous or sparsely pubescent; sepals 4 or 5, without >>>>> equal bracts (19) >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120161#KEY-1-19> >>>>> >>>>> 19 (18) >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120161#KEY-1-18> >>>>> Ovary >>>>> densely pubescent, drupes persistently pubescent; 2 inner petals entire. >>>>> 9 *M. thorelii* >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013258> >>>>> + Ovary and drupes pubescent; 2 inner petals bifid (20) >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120161#KEY-1-20> >>>>> >>>>> 20 (19) >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120161#KEY-1-19> >>>>> Petiole >>>>> 1.5-2.5 cm; branchlets pubescent; drupes globose. 10 *M. >>>>> simplicifolia* >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013255> >>>>> + Petiole 3-5 cm; branchlets glabrous; drupes obovoid or subglobose. 11 >>>>> *M. longipes* >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013242> >>>>> >>>>> Can you check this feature ? >>>>> >>>>> Also regarding leaves: >>>>> Flora of China says for *Meliosma thomsonii* King ex Brandis >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> leaf >>>>> blade obovate-oblong or obovate-elliptic, 18-37 × 7-16 cm, leathery, >>>>> abaxially densely lanuginous, *adaxially pubescent on midvein and >>>>> lateral veins, *lateral veins 16-20 pairs, ascending and arched to >>>>> margin, upper ones running into teeth, base attenuate to cuneate, *margin >>>>> sparsely serrate at and above middle, apex acute to acuminate.* >>>>> >>>>> Flora of China says for *Meliosma simplicifolia* (Roxburgh) Walpers >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013255> >>>>> leaf >>>>> blade obovate or obovate-oblong, 15-40 × 5-15 cm, papery, *adaxially >>>>> glabrous, *vein axils crinite, lateral veins 15-20 pairs, >>>>> arched-anastomosing near margin, reticulate veins slender and conspicuous, >>>>> attenuate 2/3 to base, *margin entire, sometimes serrulate, apex >>>>> acute or shortly caudate.* >>>>> >>>>> Pl. check. >>>>> >>>>> To me leaves look *adaxially glabrous, **margin serrulate and apex >>>>> acute* >>>>> So it may be *Meliosma simplicifolia* (Roxburgh) Walpers >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013255> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 at 11:54 >>>>> Subject: SK2025 04 July 2019 >>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Members, >>>>> >>>>> Location: Chalnakhel, Kathmandu >>>>> Date: 24 June 2019 >>>>> Elevation: 1404 m. >>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> 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<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>> >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257>'Creating >>>>> awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>> >>>>> Winner 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