That is why I critically mentioned serrations of leaves in the comparison of two species. Also checked images and details in our database and on net before that. -- With regards, J. M. Garg
On Thu 1 Aug, 2019, 3:15 PM Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote: > Because most of the images in net, drawing and herbarium showing not > serrated leaf. So I got > confused. Very few images of leaves and FoP showing serrated images . > > Meliosma simplicifolia (Roxb.) Walp. > <http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:776329-1> > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:43 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Saroj ji, >> I have worked on details and given these in my detailed reply. In such a >> case, one should contradict only on facts or some links etc. >> >> On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 21:41, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Just a guess according to keys. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 6:15 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> How can you say that? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J. M. Garg >>>> >>>> On Wed 31 Jul, 2019, 5:36 PM Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The tree is at a steep slope so could not get specimen. However, looks >>>>> matching to M. thomsonii . Not sure 100 %. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 4:59 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Saroj ji, >>>>>> Flora of China gives the following keys to different between the bold >>>>>> species: >>>>>> 18 (17) >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120161#KEY-1-17> >>>>>> Leaf >>>>>> blade abaxially densely lanuginous; sepals 5, outside with 4 or 5 equal >>>>>> bracts. 8 *M. thomsonii* >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> + Leaf blade glabrous or sparsely pubescent; sepals 4 or 5, without >>>>>> equal bracts (19) >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120161#KEY-1-19> >>>>>> >>>>>> 19 (18) >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120161#KEY-1-18> >>>>>> Ovary >>>>>> densely pubescent, drupes persistently pubescent; 2 inner petals entire. >>>>>> 9 *M. thorelii* >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013258> >>>>>> + Ovary and drupes pubescent; 2 inner petals bifid (20) >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120161#KEY-1-20> >>>>>> >>>>>> 20 (19) >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=120161#KEY-1-19> >>>>>> Petiole >>>>>> 1.5-2.5 cm; branchlets pubescent; drupes globose. 10 *M. >>>>>> simplicifolia* >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013255> >>>>>> + Petiole 3-5 cm; branchlets glabrous; drupes obovoid or subglobose. >>>>>> 11 *M. longipes* >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013242> >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you check this feature ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Also regarding leaves: >>>>>> Flora of China says for *Meliosma thomsonii* King ex Brandis >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> leaf >>>>>> blade obovate-oblong or obovate-elliptic, 18-37 × 7-16 cm, leathery, >>>>>> abaxially densely lanuginous, *adaxially pubescent on midvein and >>>>>> lateral veins, *lateral veins 16-20 pairs, ascending and arched to >>>>>> margin, upper ones running into teeth, base attenuate to cuneate, *margin >>>>>> sparsely serrate at and above middle, apex acute to acuminate.* >>>>>> >>>>>> Flora of China says for *Meliosma simplicifolia* (Roxburgh) Walpers >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013255> >>>>>> leaf >>>>>> blade obovate or obovate-oblong, 15-40 × 5-15 cm, papery, *adaxially >>>>>> glabrous, *vein axils crinite, lateral veins 15-20 pairs, >>>>>> arched-anastomosing near margin, reticulate veins slender and >>>>>> conspicuous, >>>>>> attenuate 2/3 to base, *margin entire, sometimes serrulate, apex >>>>>> acute or shortly caudate.* >>>>>> >>>>>> Pl. check. >>>>>> >>>>>> To me leaves look *adaxially glabrous, **margin serrulate and apex >>>>>> acute* >>>>>> So it may be *Meliosma simplicifolia* (Roxburgh) Walpers >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013255> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 at 11:54 >>>>>> Subject: SK2025 04 July 2019 >>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>> >>>>>> Location: Chalnakhel, Kathmandu >>>>>> Date: 24 June 2019 >>>>>> Elevation: 1404 m. >>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> 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<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257> >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257>'Creating >>>>>> awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> >>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200013257>Efloraofindia >>>>>> Google e-group 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You can also use them for free as >>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>> of India'. >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >> Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >> 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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