Thanks a lot, Singh ji.

On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 21:36, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes it is a good idea. We have to do our bit to make the group popular. I
> latest Fourth International Edition of my book "Plant Systematics An
> Integrated Approach" released in June, 2019 I have added the followng
> paragraph:
>
> Last few years have seen the spurt of internet-based exchange of
> information. Efloraofindia (formerly
> Indiantreepix) https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ is one of the
> biggest non-commercial website,
> based on photographic collection of plants. It is documenting flora of
> India that is being discussed on
> efloraofindia google e-group https://groups.google.com/forum/indiantreepix,
> devoted to creating awareness,
> helping in identification, discussion and documentation of Indian Flora.
> It also has the largest database
> on net on Indian Flora with more than 12,000 species (along with more than
> 3,00,000 pictures. It also
> includes species from other parts of world.
>      This will also be there in Fourth Edition of Indian version "Plant
> Systematics: Theory and Practice", which will be released soon, and am
> happy to note is read widely by College and University students and
> teachers.
>
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Mob: 9810359089
> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 11:48 AM Giby Kuriakose <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Great Garg ji,
>>
>> This is something interesting. I support the point that Pankaj shared, to
>> some extant. A student by doing an internship would be looking for a valid
>> certificate (at the present job scenario is concerned). Valid means valid
>> for their respective colleges, universities, companies, firms, etc. Many of
>> the colleges and Universities do not know about efi. Whenever I deliver an
>> invited lecture I use to incorporate efi as one of the best platforms to
>> get plants idied and a great chance to get in touch with leading experts in
>> plant taxonomy in India. However, people are reluctant to come up with
>> using the platform (a scenario from Kerala, at least). I do not know why.
>> Many of the Indian institutes have not yet accepted the idea of such groups
>> in solving identification problems. However, we are growing further from
>> the base that you laid years back and I believe that this idea would also
>> get accepted by botanists and plant taxonomy aspirants in near future.
>>
>> I include(ed) my role in efi in my CV and whenever there is a query on
>> the same, I use to tell them about efi and my role (especially how I learnt
>> more about plants that are in distant places that I may not reach from my
>> place) in efi precisely. That is more than enough, I believe. We can spread
>> the message somehow.
>>
>> I would be happy to tell my students to take up small assignments such as
>> identification comparison and gathering data based on our data archives. I
>> shall certainly consider this as an internship as she or he got to know how
>> to go about something anew. That would probably help them to go further, I
>> am sure.
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether any agency or admission authority or firm would
>> consider the certificate valid. But what is important is that he or she
>> (student) has learned to do something (after doing some exercises) that
>> would add confidence in the student, for sure. Getting such chances where
>> several experts are present is also a matter that should be considered a
>> great achievement for a student to start with. That confidence itself would
>> be an added boost for a better learning experience. I suggest you to make
>> sure that there should be some monitoring and scrutiny of the works done by
>> the interns. Based on the recommendations a certificate of appreciation
>> shall be issued. Also the names of interns and their respective works shall
>> be mentioned in our site. That itself would be a reference for them to
>> claim.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Giby
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:43 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Lalithamba ji.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 20:16, Lalithamba Avadhanam <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> yes a good idea to encourage them by issuing  a certificate by our
>>>> emeritus persons; they may be entrusted to write notes/key to the species
>>>> where it is yet to be done in the efi, or region wise classifications/ to
>>>> contribute a few images they have observed like that, it will be useful to
>>>> efi thus they may learn how to manage the data how to study etc.,it will
>>>> also teach them how to deal in a group
>>>> regards
>>>> A.Lalithamba
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:01 PM Mohina Macker <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It would be a good idea to encourage students to contribute towards
>>>>> efl as it is an interesting endeavour for the students as well. Perhaps
>>>>> instead of calling it an official internship it can be termed as work
>>>>> experience. Internship is an official part of education bound by college 
>>>>> or
>>>>> university regulations of time period, stipends, supervision, etc.
>>>>> Perhaps voluntary students could be offered time bound, predetermined
>>>>> projects entailing some research and organization to keep them engaged.
>>>>> I would think one of the senior members or a botanist could then give
>>>>> them a certificate, it will look good on a young person's resume.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Mohina
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On 06-Aug-2019, at 01:21, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Garg ji
>>>>> Internship work in eFloraofindia is a good and innovative idea. This
>>>>> will be quite helpful to the interns as well as for the popularization of
>>>>> efi. A common certificate may be designed and e-signed by two authorized
>>>>> signatories (you and Dr. Singh Sir can do this work). The interns will be
>>>>> required to associate with some botanists.  This information may be put on
>>>>> the efi website.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 6 Aug, 2019, 8:34 AM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> May I request other moderators also to give their views and how they
>>>>>> feel as it is a very important point of discussion and Pankaj ji has also
>>>>>> raised a very important point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> J. M. Garg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: Sun 4 Aug, 2019, 3:43 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Internship work in eFloraofindia
>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear members,
>>>>>> These days lot of students wants to do internship in their vacations.
>>>>>> Lot of them are willing do that even if it's free.
>>>>>> I request members to urge botany, taxonomy, ecology students etc. to
>>>>>> take up internship work in Efloraofindia. They may be asked to help in 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> identifications etc. on the efloraofindia e group
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix>.
>>>>>> In lieu of their work, we may provide suitable certificate in the
>>>>>> matter, if required.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in
>>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or 
>>>>>> Efloraofindia
>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a
>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which
>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
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>>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants 
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> of India'.
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>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
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>>> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or 
>>> Efloraofindia
>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
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>>> 1,70,000 images are directly displayed).
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>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia
website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
1,70,000 images are directly displayed).

The whole world uses my Image Resource
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.

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