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From: Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 09:23
Subject: Re: [itpmods:12937] Phases of developments of eFI site
To: itpmods <[email protected]>


Dear Mr. Garg,
Efloraofindia has become a very important resource in relatively a short
period of time as a result of your vision and the efforts you and the
pioneers in the group have put in. Now with an extensive list of members
from all over India it’s perhaps the most valuable platform to further our
knowledge of Indian plants. The statistics speak from themselves!

I joined this group about five years ago when its was already an important
reservoir of knowledge. In this short time, I have learnt a lot from
discussions on various genre and species. Genre and species pages have made
identifications simpler.

A large number of photographs on our page depicting different aspects of a
species are a great help matching the features to the ID keys. Perhaps we
could strengthen that further and strive to include all features that are
critical in ascertaining the identification for each species. We could then
list the features that we based our identifications on. It’s already being
done for several species on the pages and can be strengthened.

Also, perhaps, we can formalise the system of finalising the
identification. For example, for doubtful species we could fix an ID after
three (or more) seniors/experts have looked at the photos and agreed upon
the ID. This way, the species/genus page will only have the photographs
whose identification is beyond doubt and matches the key features listed on
the page. The other photos could belong to the discussions as before. Of
course, the identification may still be revised when additional research so
demands.

I am aware that all this takes a lot of effort and you, Mr. Garg, are
shouldering more than your share of this. Your suggestion of finding
volunteers is a good way forward. I do not have experience to contribute to
that discussion but have seen valuable suggestions put forth by members who
have.

My sincere gratitude for providing this great platform for learning and
contributing.

Thank you.
Ashwini






On 7 Aug 2019, at 20:46, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks, Singh ji.
Accumulated knowledge in the database, by all the exerts and members, is
guiding not only us, but all in the world.

On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 19:04, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Truly a great journey for all of us. It motivated us to explore different
> areas more vigorously, learn about plants from other parts of India, thanks
> to Garg ji who led us from the front, Dinesh ji, Prashant ji, Satish Phadke
> ji, Rajesh Sachdev, Aarti Khale, who enriched our knowledge in a big way,
> and experts like Vijayasankar Raman, D S Rawat, E. S. Santosh Kumar, P
> Santhan, Muthu Karthick, Nayan Singh, TPS Kumar, Tapas Chakrabarty, Ritesh
> Kumar Chaudhary, Saroj Kumar Kasaju, who gave new direction to our group,
> Pankaj Kumar who not only initiated me to Orchids, but also has been deeply
> involved all through, Balkar Singh, Nidhan Singh, Smita Raskar who made
> possible group exploration trips especially Western Himalaya and Ushadi who
> has always been big motivator throwing in valuable suggestions, pointers
> for identification and keeping discussions lively. Truly a great journey
> for all of us.
>
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Mob: 9810359089
> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 2:36 AM Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Great job and Progress, Gargji.
>>
>> I joined in 2010, i had no idea about what the site excel sheet would
>> add, (Phase i as you call it)
>> but
>> wow look what you have accomplished. (The current phase)
>>
>> wonderful.
>> Efloraindia pictures are showing up in google searches.
>>
>> love it
>>
>> Usha di
>> ===========
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:49 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 10:16
>>> Subject: Phases of developments of eFI site
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear members,
>>> I think these are the phases of developments of eFI site:
>>> 1. Phase 1- When we could retrieve the data from our Excel sheet and put
>>> these on efi site species wise, say from Nov. 2010, to say up to Dec.2012 
>>> (new
>>> format
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fcl%2Fcombretaceae%2Fterminalia%2Fterminalia-bellirica&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFLLTekBHyzzTTU3-c7EhWcLNwRjw>
>>> & colour scheme
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fcolour-scheme-formatting&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNECp-Ee5X2oylJNBZ4xalzOhvTcUw>
>>> ).
>>> 2. Phase 2- When we started adding data directly from discussion threads
>>> to efi site along with species available on genera pages, say for next two
>>> years (new genera pages
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/Ubjh1TqbsoM>, 
>>> availability
>>> of keys
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/19vRcGjOPKY>, 
>>> additional
>>> inf. from cc-by sources
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/an6aZN4T_BY>, use
>>> of efi in scientific publications
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/819inw30Ng4>, 
>>> efloraofindia
>>> in IAAT Conference
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/mFQ14nYnQ04>, Award
>>> for efloraofindia
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>),
>>> say from Jan.'2013 to Dec. 2014, for two years.
>>> 3. Phase 3- When we started inserting images at species, genera pages
>>> and family pages (What if all the efi pages look so beautiful ?
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/[email protected]/indiantreepix/NcGvLUmSezs>,
>>> Guidelines- Members are now allowed to insert pictures in efi site pages
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/dx_ihgI9y1M>, Genera
>>> pages with pictures- Another very interesting development
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/QdZ4eCxfd9o>, Good
>>> learning through insertion of images
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/hkwDJbSCG9c>, ‎‎‎‎89
>>> families are now with images (with names starting from A to D)
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/77Hb0VOFahw>, Surfing
>>> efloraofindia has become easier
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/6IzqedrJNzE>, Subpage
>>> Listings
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/general-eposts/general-efi-posts/about-efi-website/subpage-listings/subpage-listings>),
>>> say from Jan.'2015 to Dec.2016, for two years.
>>> 4. Phase 4- When we started inserting images on large scale along with
>>> through revision of all our posts genus and family wise (Comparative
>>> images are a game changer
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/OQVL8wEmew0>, 
>>> Presentation
>>> for IAAt Conference-2017, Delhi University
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/nxszNUDW96I>, Times
>>> have changed with images
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/O3F6x5KxWLM>, efi
>>> completing 10 years
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/general-eposts/general-efi-posts/about-efi-website/10-years>,
>>> Images available in all page in efloraofindia
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/viptcZhZVTI>, Every
>>> successive post leads to validation
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/_cQAOP0MLTs>, 
>>> efloraofindia
>>> (eFI) site completes eight years on 2 Nov. 2018
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/nKevfT5iZio>, 121
>>> families are now with images (with names starting from A to H)
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/1AjpYwIwbT4> &
>>> now already more than 150 families covered and focus shifted to genus pages
>>> where members are having problem in day to day identifications, To have
>>> thumbnails images on all threads
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/QmLfG7ooxXc>),
>>> say from Jan.2017 and still continuing.
>>> This aspect came to my mind and I thought of capturing it in a single
>>> thread. This only shows how difficult our journey has been, but for the
>>> support of all of you.
>>> Long Live eFloraofIndia!!!
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.
>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
>>> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or 
>>> Efloraofindia
>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
>>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
>>> 1,70,000 images are directly displayed).
>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>>> India'.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.
>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
>>> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or 
>>> Efloraofindia
>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
>>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
>>> 1,70,000 images are directly displayed).
>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
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>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>>> India'.
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With regards,
J.M.Garg
'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.
For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia
website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
1,70,000 images are directly displayed).
The whole world uses my Image Resource
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.

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Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
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<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia
website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
1,70,000 images are directly displayed).

The whole world uses my Image Resource
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.

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