Thanks a lot, Ashwini ji, for this important feedback. I will certainly try to strengthen the aspects you have highlighted. What comes in contrast with any other site in the word is the comparative images on genus and family pages. I have hardly seen any such efforts anywhere in the world, at least on such a large scale. This itself makes us stand apart, along with so many other aspects. We have always followed unorthodox approach, hardly seen anywhere else in the world.
On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 09:23, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Mr. Garg, > Efloraofindia has become a very important resource in relatively a short > period of time as a result of your vision and the efforts you and the > pioneers in the group have put in. Now with an extensive list of members > from all over India it’s perhaps the most valuable platform to further our > knowledge of Indian plants. The statistics speak from themselves! > > I joined this group about five years ago when its was already an important > reservoir of knowledge. In this short time, I have learnt a lot from > discussions on various genre and species. Genre and species pages have made > identifications simpler. > > A large number of photographs on our page depicting different aspects of a > species are a great help matching the features to the ID keys. Perhaps we > could strengthen that further and strive to include all features that are > critical in ascertaining the identification for each species. We could then > list the features that we based our identifications on. It’s already being > done for several species on the pages and can be strengthened. > > Also, perhaps, we can formalise the system of finalising the > identification. For example, for doubtful species we could fix an ID after > three (or more) seniors/experts have looked at the photos and agreed upon > the ID. This way, the species/genus page will only have the photographs > whose identification is beyond doubt and matches the key features listed on > the page. The other photos could belong to the discussions as before. Of > course, the identification may still be revised when additional research so > demands. > > I am aware that all this takes a lot of effort and you, Mr. Garg, are > shouldering more than your share of this. Your suggestion of finding > volunteers is a good way forward. I do not have experience to contribute to > that discussion but have seen valuable suggestions put forth by members who > have. > > My sincere gratitude for providing this great platform for learning and > contributing. > > Thank you. > Ashwini > > > > > > > On 7 Aug 2019, at 20:46, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Singh ji. > Accumulated knowledge in the database, by all the exerts and members, is > guiding not only us, but all in the world. > > On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 19:04, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Truly a great journey for all of us. It motivated us to explore different >> areas more vigorously, learn about plants from other parts of India, thanks >> to Garg ji who led us from the front, Dinesh ji, Prashant ji, Satish Phadke >> ji, Rajesh Sachdev, Aarti Khale, who enriched our knowledge in a big way, >> and experts like Vijayasankar Raman, D S Rawat, E. S. Santosh Kumar, P >> Santhan, Muthu Karthick, Nayan Singh, TPS Kumar, Tapas Chakrabarty, Ritesh >> Kumar Chaudhary, Saroj Kumar Kasaju, who gave new direction to our group, >> Pankaj Kumar who not only initiated me to Orchids, but also has been deeply >> involved all through, Balkar Singh, Nidhan Singh, Smita Raskar who made >> possible group exploration trips especially Western Himalaya and Ushadi who >> has always been big motivator throwing in valuable suggestions, pointers >> for identification and keeping discussions lively. Truly a great journey >> for all of us. >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 2:36 AM Ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Great job and Progress, Gargji. >>> >>> I joined in 2010, i had no idea about what the site excel sheet would >>> add, (Phase i as you call it) >>> but >>> wow look what you have accomplished. (The current phase) >>> >>> wonderful. >>> Efloraindia pictures are showing up in google searches. >>> >>> love it >>> >>> Usha di >>> =========== >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:49 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 10:16 >>>> Subject: Phases of developments of eFI site >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear members, >>>> I think these are the phases of developments of eFI site: >>>> 1. Phase 1- When we could retrieve the data from our Excel sheet and >>>> put these on efi site species wise, say from Nov. 2010, to say up to >>>> Dec.2012 (new format >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fcl%2Fcombretaceae%2Fterminalia%2Fterminalia-bellirica&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFLLTekBHyzzTTU3-c7EhWcLNwRjw> >>>> & colour scheme >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fcolour-scheme-formatting&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNECp-Ee5X2oylJNBZ4xalzOhvTcUw> >>>> ). >>>> 2. Phase 2- When we started adding data directly from discussion >>>> threads to efi site along with species available on genera pages, say for >>>> next two years (new genera pages >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/Ubjh1TqbsoM>, >>>> availability >>>> of keys >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/19vRcGjOPKY>, >>>> additional >>>> inf. from cc-by sources >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/an6aZN4T_BY>, use >>>> of efi in scientific publications >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/819inw30Ng4>, >>>> efloraofindia >>>> in IAAT Conference >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/mFQ14nYnQ04>, Award >>>> for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>), >>>> say from Jan.'2013 to Dec. 2014, for two years. >>>> 3. Phase 3- When we started inserting images at species, genera pages >>>> and family pages (What if all the efi pages look so beautiful ? >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/[email protected]/indiantreepix/NcGvLUmSezs>, >>>> Guidelines- Members are now allowed to insert pictures in efi site pages >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/dx_ihgI9y1M>, Genera >>>> pages with pictures- Another very interesting development >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/QdZ4eCxfd9o>, Good >>>> learning through insertion of images >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/hkwDJbSCG9c>, 89 >>>> families are now with images (with names starting from A to D) >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/77Hb0VOFahw>, >>>> Surfing >>>> efloraofindia has become easier >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/6IzqedrJNzE>, >>>> Subpage >>>> Listings >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/general-eposts/general-efi-posts/about-efi-website/subpage-listings/subpage-listings>), >>>> say from Jan.'2015 to Dec.2016, for two years. >>>> 4. Phase 4- When we started inserting images on large scale along with >>>> through revision of all our posts genus and family wise (Comparative >>>> images are a game changer >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/OQVL8wEmew0>, >>>> Presentation >>>> for IAAt Conference-2017, Delhi University >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/nxszNUDW96I>, Times >>>> have changed with images >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/O3F6x5KxWLM>, efi >>>> completing 10 years >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/general-eposts/general-efi-posts/about-efi-website/10-years>, >>>> Images available in all page in efloraofindia >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/viptcZhZVTI>, Every >>>> successive post leads to validation >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/_cQAOP0MLTs>, >>>> efloraofindia >>>> (eFI) site completes eight years on 2 Nov. 2018 >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/nKevfT5iZio>, 121 >>>> families are now with images (with names starting from A to H) >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/1AjpYwIwbT4> & >>>> now already more than 150 families covered and focus shifted to genus pages >>>> where members are having problem in day to day identifications, To >>>> have thumbnails images on all threads >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/QmLfG7ooxXc>), >>>> say from Jan.2017 and still continuing. >>>> This aspect came to my mind and I thought of capturing it in a single >>>> thread. This only shows how difficult our journey has been, but for the >>>> support of all of you. >>>> Long Live eFloraofIndia!!! >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>>> 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>>> 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFCOAG3ieW3HhfVdKhQcxDdQ5NP9tWtSd-UXNuw6Hvgu8A%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFCOAG3ieW3HhfVdKhQcxDdQ5NP9tWtSd-UXNuw6Hvgu8A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CANAwU1V2%3DUQ8YER9Uz6%3DFK%2BwTUUTgny9iFPJ3K9Ky_y5NE-z5Q%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CANAwU1V2%3DUQ8YER9Uz6%3DFK%2BwTUUTgny9iFPJ3K9Ky_y5NE-z5Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ITPmods" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpUpa69Ku-%3DE_hHRp64TdVuX-yVHTOgAAzuVtuPt_LUH4w%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpUpa69Ku-%3DE_hHRp64TdVuX-yVHTOgAAzuVtuPt_LUH4w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or > Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than > 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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