Dear friends, please bear with elaborating the fuss with *RADIATA* and * MUNGO* ... however the confusion seems to be reigning.
A line at Wikipedia throws slight light over the confusion: Urad (*Vigna mungo*), ... It, along with the mung bean, was placed in * Phaseolus* but has been transferred to *Vigna*. It was at one point considered to belong to the *same* species as the mung bean. ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urad_(bean)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urad_%28bean%29> We have the following as fact: *Vigna radiata* (syn. *Phaseolus radiatus*) ... MOONG, GREEN GRAM *Vigna mungo* (syn. *Phaseolus mungo*) ... UDID, URD, BLACK GRAM ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ In search of *Vigna mungo* or the the more popular *Phaseolus mungo*, ... following contradicting results: Names in all languages for moong, for *Phaseolus mungo* ... ENVIS - FRLHT ... http://envis.frlht.org/plant_details.php?disp_id=2194 HINDI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=platts&query=Phaseolus+mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8 H مونگ मूंग mūṅg [Prk. मुग्गो; S. मुट्गः], s.m. A species of pulse, Phaseolus mungo KASHMIRI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=grierson&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8 mŏng 1 म्वंग् । मुद्गः m. a species of pulse, Phaseolus Mungo (El. Phaseolus Max or Radiatus) MARATHI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/romadict.pl?query=%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%97&searchhws=yes&display=utf8&table=molesworth मूग (p. 662) [ mūga ] m (मुद्ग S) A grain, Phaseolus mungo PUNJABI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=singh&query=MUṆG&matchtype=exact&display=utf8<http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=singh&query=MU%E1%B9%86G&matchtype=exact&display=utf8> MÚṆG ਮੂੰਗ s. f. A plant (Phaseolus mungo, Nat. Ord. Leguminosæ) SANSKRIT ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=apte&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8 रसः rasḥ : (page 1331) ... (-मः) 1 quicksilver.-2 Phaseolus Mungo (Mar. मूग). सौख्यम् saukhyam : (page 177) ... -दायकः Phaseolus Mungo (Mar. मूग). हयः hayḥ : (page 1748) ... .-आनन्दः green grain of Phaselous Mungo (Mar. हिरवे मूग) मुद्ग (p. 230) [ mud-gá ] m. kind of kidney-bean (Phaseolus Mungo: the plant and the seed). TAMIL ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=tamillex&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8 சிறுபயறு ciṟu-payaṟu, n. < id. +. 1. Green gram, Phaseolus mungo; பச்சைப்பயறு paccai-p-payaṟu, n. < id. +. 1. Green gram, Phaseolus mungo; பயறு payaṟu, n. ... Green-gram, Phaseolus mungo TELUGU ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=gwynn&query=mungo&matchtype=exact&display=utf8 pesara n. (gen. pl. pesalu) greengram, phaseolus mungo ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ In search of *adad*, *udid*, *urad*, *urd* ... following contradictory results: GUJARATI ... http://www.gujaratilexicon.com/index.php?action=dictionary&chngdictype=EG અડદ adad m. pl. kind of pulse, black beans, phaseolus radiatus HINDI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=platts&query=%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%A6&matchtype=exact&display=utf8 H ارد उरद urd, urad, s.m. A kind of vetch, Dolichos pilosus MARATHI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/romadict.pl?query=उडीद&searchhws=yes&display=utf8&table=molesworth<http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/romadict.pl?query=%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%A1%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A6&searchhws=yes&display=utf8&table=molesworth> उडीद (p. 091) [ uḍīda ] m A pulse, Phaseolus radiatus PUNJABI ... http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=singh&query=uṛd&matchtype=exact&display=utf8<http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=singh&query=u%E1%B9%9Bd&matchtype=exact&display=utf8> MÁṆH ਮਾਂਹ s. m. A kind of grain (Phaseolus radiatus, P. Roxburghii, Nat. Ord. Leguminosæ) of which an edible pulse is made, (i. e. uṛd); ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ MIX-UP *IMPGC ... http://impgc.com/plantinfo_A.php?id=307&bc* Botanical Name: Phaseolus mungo L. non Gagn. English Name: Black gram, Mung bean, Urd bean. Synonym(s): Vigna mungo (L.) Hepper Azukia mungo (L.) Masam., Phaseolus mungo L. non Roxb. & auct. mult., Phaseolus mungoradiatus sensu Baker,Phaseolus radiatus Roxb., non L., Phaseolus roxburghii Wight & Arn., Vigna mungo (L.) Hepper var mungo. *NPGS / GRIN ... http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?41621* black gram (Source: World Econ Pl ) - English moong (Source: Dict Rehm ) - India *M.M.P.N.D. ... http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Vigna.html#mungo* SYNONYM(S) : Azukia mungo (L.) Masam., Phaseolus mungo L. non Gagn., Phaseolus mungo L. non Roxb. & auct. mult., Phaseolus mungo L. var. radiatus sensu Baker, Phaseolus radiatus Roxb., non L., Phaseolus roxburghii Wight & Arn., Vigna mungo (L.) Hepper var mungo. HINDI : उरद Urd, उर्द, मूंग. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ All this ado raised a few queries in my mind: 1) what could be the reason for mistaking identities of *moong* and *urid* ? 2) on what basis are the facts ascertained (that *V. mungo* is *urd* and *V. radiata* is *moong* ) ? 3) why the reverse naming (i.e. why was mung not named *Vigna mungo*) ? 4) is the epithet *mungo* commemorative for the Scottish explorer of the African continent, Mungo Park (1771 – 1806) ? ... if so, what were the regional (native) names of mung called earlier to coining the epithet. 5) how many other species share this epithet ? ... could not get any search results for floral species ... fauna, some species of mongoose. Regards. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > Gurcharan ji, many thanks for validation ... yes... Pankaj ji has given me > correct IDs. > Certainly, the entries for the pulses have their botanical names put > incorrectly in the Digital Dictionary at > http://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/molesworth/ > > Many many thanks Pankaj ji. > > Regards. > > > > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dinesh ji >> Pankaj ji had put you on right track. You are again getting confused. Just >> remember this reverse relationship. Moong is Vigna radiata and Urd is V. >> mungo. Our students used to get confused also. >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> >> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Referring A dictionary, Marathi and English by Molesworth, J. T. (James >>> Thomas), got following results for: >>> >>> *Mung*: *Phaseolus mungo* ... (current name: *Vigna mungo* var. *mungo*) >>> ... >>> http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/romadict.pl?query=m%C5%ABga&searchhws=yes&display=utf8&table=molesworth >>> >>> *Udid*: *Phaseolus radiatus* ... (current name: *Vigna radiata* var. * >>> radiata*) >>> ... >>> http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/romadict.pl?query=u%E1%B8%8D%C4%ABda&searchhws=yes&display=utf8&table=molesworth >>> >>> >>> Dear friends, please comment / validate. >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Many thanks to Pankaj ji for his response: >>>> >>>> ..................................................................... >>>> >>>> Vigna radiata- Moong. Green Gram >>>> >>>> Vigna mungo-Udid, Urd Black Gram. >>>> >>>> >>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>> >>>> ................................................................ >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Dinesh Valke >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear friends, >>>>> Got confused while getting scientific names for *moong* and *udid* ... >>>>> please help. >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "efloraofindia" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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