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From: Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 13:42
Subject: Re: [itpmods:13320] Fwd: Leaf veins are important for id in closer
species
To: ushadi <microminipho...@gmail.com>
Cc: itpmods <itpm...@googlegroups.com>


Sorry my english never improves sitting with so many chinese speakers
around :( my fault anyways.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 16:13, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Respected Mam,
> I am thinking about your question, which I didnt think during that IDLE
> time 18 years ago for obvious reasons....
> Why will a plant need more stomata?
> The basic answer should be to breathe more.
> Why this plant has to breathe more?
> So that it can take more CO2.
> Why a plant need to take more CO2?
> So that it can release more water.
> Why does this plant have to release more water?
> Because the plant has glands all over the body which needs to be active
> and that can happen only by regular supply of water. Plant is herbaceous
> and hence during blooming time in summer it needs more water intake.
> Was just thinking sitting at my office desk, in not so IDLE time.... :)
> Dont mind please...
>
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 15:56, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> sorry "idle" :(
>>
>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 15:46, ushadi <microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Pankaj
>>> So p foetida has the most stomata
>>> I wonder why?
>>>
>>> good use of Idle time ... I would say ideal ( pun intended) ha ha
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ushadi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:10 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:56, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here is one of my first articles I had worked on 2001 but published in
>>>>> 2003. Not an extraordinary article but gives an idea about how
>>>>> flair morphology can be used in plant identification.
>>>>> I had just given my masters exam and was sitting ideal for 2 months,
>>>>> so please dont judge me with this article.
>>>>> Thanks and regards
>>>>> Pankaj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 12:05, Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <
>>>>> ponsant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That is true Garg ji, French institute Pondicherry used document that
>>>>>> data, They will put a white paper over the leaf and do a pencil tracing 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> record actual vein pattern.
>>>>>> *Thanks &regards*
>>>>>> *Dr. Santhan P*
>>>>>> *Industrial R&D expert, Plant taxonomist*
>>>>>> Author of the Book *"Trees of our Life" *Botany, Chemistry, Medicine
>>>>>> *9**444813474/9620389349*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:16 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:16
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Leaf veins are important for id in closer species
>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also once we narrow down to a genus, it is quite possible to get
>>>>>>> species id even with only leaves, by matching the leaf veins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:13, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear members,
>>>>>>>> Now that we have plenty of photographs in efi site, I find that
>>>>>>>> leaf veins play an important role in id not only for general posts, but
>>>>>>>> also for species which otherwise may look similar and confusing.
>>>>>>>> I generally try to check this aspect when I am not getting sure of
>>>>>>>> the id otherwise.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest
>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) 
>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia
>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a
>>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which
>>>>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
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>>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, 
>>>>>>>> Plants
>>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for 
>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds
>>>>>>>> of India'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in
>>>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or 
>>>>>>> Efloraofindia
>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a
>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which
>>>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than
>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants
>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for 
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds
>>>>>>> of India'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in
>>>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or 
>>>>>>> Efloraofindia
>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a
>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which
>>>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than
>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants
>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for 
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds
>>>>>>> of India'.
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ******************************************************
>>>>> ****************************************************************
>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Office*:
>>>>>
>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section
>>>>>
>>>>> Flora Conservation Department
>>>>>
>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China
>>>>>
>>>>> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com
>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251
>>>>> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> With regards,
>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>
>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>
>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.
>>>>
>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in
>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or 
>>>> Efloraofindia
>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
>>>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
>>>> 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19).
>>>>
>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>
>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>>>> India'.
>>>>
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>>>
>>
>> --
>> ******************************************************
>> ****************************************************************
>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
>>
>> *Office*:
>>
>> Orchid Conservation Section
>>
>> Flora Conservation Department
>>
>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China
>>
>> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com
>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251
>> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194
>>
>>
>
> --
> ******************************************************
> ****************************************************************
> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
>
> *Office*:
>
> Orchid Conservation Section
>
> Flora Conservation Department
>
> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China
>
> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com
> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251
> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194
>
>

-- 
******************************************************
****************************************************************
*Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
*IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*

*Office*:

Orchid Conservation Section

Flora Conservation Department

Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China

*email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com
*Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251
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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia
website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19).

The whole world uses my Image Resource
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.

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