Hi, Tabish Pl. see the following. Giving details from Flora of China: *Cleoserrata speciosa (Rafinesque) Iltis*: Herbs, annual, 0.5-1.5 m tall. Stems simple or sparsely branched, fluted, *glabrous or sparsely glandular pubescent*. Petiole 2-12 cm, glandular pubescent; *leaflets (3 or)5-9; *leaflet blades narrowly lanceolate-elliptic, 6-15 × 1-5 cm, *both surfaces glabrate to glandular pubescent*, base attenuate, margin entire or serrulate, *apex acuminate*. Inflorescences 15-50 cm but 20-60 cm in fruit, glandular pubescent; *bracts narrowly ovate-cordate*, 0.3-1.8 cm. *Pedicel 1-5 cm, glabrous*. *Sepals* green, lanceolate, 4-7 × 0.8-1.2 mm, equal, distinct, persistent, *glandular pubescent, *base cuneate, margin entire. Petals brilliant pink to purple but fading to pink or white by second day, rarely initially white, *ovate*, 1.5-4.2 × 0.8-1.1 cm, *clawed*. Androgynophore ca. 4 mm at anthesis; stamens 4-8.5 cm; anthers 6-10 mm. Pistil 6-10 mm; style 1-1.2 mm. Fruit gynophore 3-8.5 cm, with scars from filaments on ca. 1 cm of androgynophore and visible on ca. 1/4 of its length; capsule cylindric but irregularly contracted between seeds, 6-15 cm × 3-5 mm. Seeds 10-30 per capsule, pale green to brown, subspherical, 2.5-3.5 × 1-1.2 mm, tuberculate. Fl. Aug-Nov, fr. Sep-Dec.
*Tarenaya hassleriana (Chodat) Iltis*: Herbs, annual, (0.5-)1-1.5 m tall. Stems branched, *glandular pubescent*. Stipular spines 1-3 mm. Petiole 2.5-7.5 cm, glandular pubescent, with scattered 1-3 mm spines;* leaflets 5 or 7;* leaflet blades elliptic to oblanceolate, 2-6(-12) × 1-3 cm, *abaxially glandular pubescent, adaxially glandular, *margin serrulate-denticulate, *apex acute. *Inflorescences 5-30 cm but 10-80 cm in fruit, pedunculate; *bracts ovate,* 1-2.5 cm. *Pedicel 2-4.5 cm, glandular pubescent*. *Sepals* green, equal, distinct, linear-lanceolate, 5-7 × 0.8-1.3 mm, *reflexed after anthesis*, persistent, *glandular pubescent,* margin entire, apex acuminate. Petals pink to purple but infrequently white or fading to white by second day, *oblong to ovate*, 2-3(-4.5) × 0.8-1.2 cm, *clawed*. *Stamens purple*, *3-5 cm; anthers green, *9-10 mm. Pistil 6-10 mm; style ca. 0.1 mm. Fruit gynophore 4.5-8 cm; capsule (2.5-)4-8 cm × 2.5-4 mm, in straight alignment with gynophore and pedicel, glabrous. Seeds 10-20 per capsule, dark brown to black, triangular to subspherical, 1.9-2.1 × 1.9-2.1 mm, tuberculate. Fl. (Apr-)May-Dec, fr. Jun-Dec. Petals are clawed in both. You can see both at Cleoserrata speciosa <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cleomaceae/cleoserrata/cleome-speciosa> and Tarenaya hassleriana <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cleomaceae/tarenaya/cleome-hassleriana> On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 08:26, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Both can clawed as per Flora of China. > > On Mon 21 Oct, 2019, 10:06 PM Tabish, <tabi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Garg ji, for sorting out Cleome hassleriana and Cleome speciosa. >> Ushadi is rightly perplexed. I think one need not go into stamen color. The >> most easy to note difference between the two is that the petals are clawed >> in *Cleoserrata speciosa*, and they are not clawed in *Tarenaya >> hassleriana*. What is meant by clawed is that the petals are suddenly >> constricted at the base, having an apparent "stalk". FOI images of these >> will be corrected in shortly. >> Tabish >> ------------------------------------------- >> www.flowersofindia.net >> The waterhole of flower lovers <http://www.flowersofindia.net> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 9:31 PM ushadi <microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This is getting more confusing >>> >>> I cant believe diagnosis can be based on stamen color only >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> Ushadi >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 7:36 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Tabish ji, >>>> Image of Cleome speciosa in FOI >>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Showy%20Spider%20Flower.html> >>>> should >>>> be of *Tarenaya hassleriana* (Chodat) H. H. 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