Hi, Ushadi, Pl. see the main difference between the two genera: Flora of China gives the following keys Androgynophore 5-10 mm; gynophore 2-6 cm; nodal spines absent- *Cleoserrata* <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=317305> Androgynophore absent; gynophore 4.5-8 cm; nodal spines present - *Tarenaya* <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=132319> (prickles often present on petiole and major leaf veins).
Due to this, stamens are inserted together in a club like stub above the bottom in Tarenaya hassleriana <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cleomaceae/tarenaya/cleome-hassleriana>, while these are inserted in the bottom in Cleoserrata speciosa <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cleomaceae/cleoserrata/cleome-speciosa> . On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 08:29, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Ushadi, > Main difference is based on the insertion point of stamens as I gave in my > analysis. Stamen colour is just one of the difference we can easily rely > upon along with other differences. > I find this is very easy and correct way based on atleast 50 observations > in efi site and as per efloras. > > On Mon 21 Oct, 2019, 9:31 PM ushadi, <microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is getting more confusing >> >> I cant believe diagnosis can be based on stamen color only >> >> >> Regards >> Ushadi >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 7:36 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Tabish ji, >>> Image of Cleome speciosa in FOI >>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Showy%20Spider%20Flower.html> >>> should >>> be of *Tarenaya hassleriana* (Chodat) H. H. 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