Just to clarify, this also includes fruits that appear exerted but come out near the base of the cyathium as in the case of the close-ups. Some more typical examples can be seen in the cyathia on the right branch in the second photo. The important characteristic is actually the length of the gynophore, which typically manifests itself by being partially included at maturity. Sometimes the fruits do manage to escape from the involucre, but it is only by growing through a deep cyathial sinus on the side of the involucre making the fruit base appear as if it is adhered perpendicularly to the side of the cyathium rather than coming out the apex or curving through a relatively shallow cyathial sinus such that the fruit is either parallel or at an acute angle to the cyathium.
Regards, Nathan Taylor On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:09:24 PM UTC-6, Nathan Taylor wrote: > > Forgive me sir, but I must respectfully disagree that this is E. > granulata. Note that the fruits are partially included within the cyathia > at maturity. This is the classic distinguishing characteristic of E. > thymifolia. The fruits of E. granulata are well exerted at maturity. > Furthermore, all the material of E. granulata I have seen have hairs that > are straight and spreading, not appressed as in E. thymifolia. > > Regards, > Nathan Taylor > > On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 4:39:38 AM UTC-5, N P Balakrishnan wrote: >> >> Those red-marked structures appear to be glands of the involucre cup. >> N.P. Balakrishnan >> 5-8-15 >> >> On 5 August 2015 at 10:55, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>> Date: 31 July 2015 at 22:41 >>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:228627] July2015sk17/19 -- small >>> Euphorbiaceae herb >>> To: Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Sir, >>> >>> I am grateful to you and Balakrishnan Sir. >>> >>> Based on the webpage >>> http://www.euphorbiaceae.org/pages/about_euphorbia.html I am trying to >>> understand *Euphorbia* inflorescence. I am attaching a plate of this >>> species. I can understand which one is capsule. Both Flora of China and >>> Pakistan inform that in this species cyathium is single. Then what are >>> those red-marked structures shown in the plate? >>> >>> Thank you very much. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Nambiyath Balakrishnan <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 10:47 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:228201] July2015sk17/19 -- small >>>> Euphorbiaceae herb >>>> To: Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Tapas >>>> This plant is definitely *E. granulata* Forssk. In this species leaves >>>> are sometimes serrulate and root primordia are sometimes not developed. It >>>> does fit into any other species. >>>> Balakrishnan >>>> 31-07-2015 >>>> >>>> On 27 July 2015 at 01:33, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Respected Sir, >>>>> This is similar to Euphorbia serpens in leaf shape and size but the >>>>> margins are serrate and I do not see any root primordia. The leaves are >>>>> much smaller that those of E. indica and E. cristata. >>>>> With kind regards, >>>>> Tapas. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 9:04 PM >>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:228201] July2015sk17/19 -- small >>>>>> Euphorbiaceae herb >>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Noticed this small herb beside our kitchen drainage. There are 3 or 4 >>>>>> individual of this species, each having around 3 to 4 cm length. >>>>>> Unfortunately the other camera I have is now out-of-order! >>>>>> >>>>>> I regret bad picture quality, but the plant itself has tiny flower >>>>>> and fruit. The features are, as far as I can make out of the attached >>>>>> photographs, (i) opposite sub-sessile leaves (ii) leaves are about 5mm >>>>>> in >>>>>> length (iii) leaf apex serrate. >>>>>> >>>>>> It looks similar to >>>>>> http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/245933?sa=X&ved=0CBcQ9QEwAWoVChMI2eD7vIb5xgIVQYyUCh37Vgq6 >>>>>> >>>>>> Any probability? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>> a *non-botanist* member of >>>>>> efloraofIndia google group >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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