Rashida ji As indicated earlier, S. indicum has undergone a lot of reinvestigation. S. indicum L. (S. ferox of FBI 4:233; S. stramonifolium vide Saldanha Fl. Hassan district 462) is now correctly S. lasiocarpum Dunal. It is quite distinct in usually blue flowers and more importantly densely hairy about 1.5 cm across fruits, turning glossy red when mature.
Solanum indicum of FBI 4:234 (non L.) is now S. violaceum Ortega (syn: S. sodomeum L.)- It has blue purple flowers; both young and old fruits are glabrous; mature berry is about 1 cm orange in colour. Some S. indicum specimens now correctly belong to S. anguivi, a species with white flowers, but often with purple veins and small fruits almost red when rip in raceme-like clusters. I am reproducing its description below: Shrub up to 3 m tall with spreading branches; stem often prickly, bearing small, sessile stellate hairs with 4–8 arms. Leaves alternate, simple; stipules absent; petiole 2–6 cm long, densely stellate-hairy; blade elliptical-ovate, 10–20 cm × 5–10 cm, sinuate to distinctly lobed, with 2–4 pairs of lobes 2–3 cm long, base oblique, cuneate or occasionally truncate or subcordate, apex acute to obtuse, on both surfaces with more or less sessile stellate hairs having 6–10 more or less equal arms. Inflorescence a raceme-like cyme, extra-axillary, 5–15-flowered, occasionally flowers solitary. Flowers usually bisexual, occasionally the distal flowers with short styles and functionally male, regular, usually 5-merous; pedicel 4–15 mm long; calyx densely hairy, lobes c. 3 mm long; corolla stellate, 6–12 mm in diameter, white, occasionally with pale purple veins on the outer surface, stellate hairy outside, more or less glabrous inside; stamens alternate with corolla lobes, filaments short and thick, anthers connivent, yellow, opening by terminal pores; ovary superior, 2–6-celled, style about as long as stamens, stigma small. Fruit a subglobose berry 7–18 mm in diameter, smooth, green or white when young, red when ripe, in clusters of up to 20 fruits; stalk 8–15 mm long, usually erect, occasionally decurved. Seeds subreniform, 2–3 mm long. Seedling with epigeal germination; cotyledons thin, leafy. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Rashida Atthar <[email protected]>wrote: > Perhaps, but the earlier name of the species in Dr. Almeida's flora are as > follows: Solanum lasiocarpum Dunal, S. ferox auct non. Linn., 1763); Wight, > S. indicum Linn., S. involucratum Bl., S. Kurzii Brace in Prain, S. hirsutum > Roxb. Let us wait for experts ID. We may both we incorrect ! > > regards, > Rashida. > > > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:20 AM, tanay bose <[email protected]>wrote: > >> It do sometime have round fruit ( rare 1 out of 5000) but you can check >> from any database the species name came from the structure of the fruit. >> Tanay >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Rashida Atthar < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Well Tanay ji Dr. Almeida's flora says " Berry globose, 2-3 cm in >>> diameter, densely covered with long fulvous hair. Seeds 2.5 mm in diameter >>> faintly rugose with concentric ring". There is line drawing also of the >>> leaves and fruits. >>> >>> regards, >>> Rashida >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:06 AM, tanay bose <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> I think there is no chance of *S mammosum* , as the species name >>>> suggest the fruits looks like the cow's udder (mammary gland) . Please sthe >>>> photos from my earlier post at Eflora >>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/b5b894fba4ba9a83/add7b9f8711c8e1a?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=solanum+mammosum#add7b9f8711c8e1a >>>> >>>> Tanay >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Rashida Atthar < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Could this possibly be Solanum mammosum Lour. , basing this on the leaf >>>>> description and yellow slender prickles on both sides. Colour of flowers >>>>> not >>>>> given in Dr. Almeida's flora. >>>>> >>>>> Raghu ji thanks for posting so many amazing pics of the different >>>>> species of Solanum together, and with Dr. Kunhikannan' s expertise it will >>>>> give us a lot of correct Ids. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> Rashida. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> SOS for Kunhikannan ji, our expert on Solanum. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:08 AM, tanay bose <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Right you are Sir this *Solanum* really makes me mad some times !! >>>>>>> Any clue from your side? >>>>>>> tanay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tanay, I think S. viarum is supposed to have white flowers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:41 PM, tanay bose <[email protected] >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry for the last post my guess is Solanum viarum >>>>>>>>> tanay >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:39 PM, tanay bose < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is it Solanum indicum? >>>>>>>>>> Tanay >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:31 PM, raghu ananth < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regional Mullu Badane [Kannada] meaning Eggplant with thorns in >>>>>>>>>>> the leaf >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Purple flowers, thorns in the leaf veins (both upper and lower), >>>>>>>>>>> and in the stem. 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