Thank you very much for all the information Sir. regards, Rashida.
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > Rashida ji > As indicated earlier, S. indicum has undergone a lot of reinvestigation. S. > indicum L. (S. ferox of FBI 4:233; S. stramonifolium vide Saldanha Fl. > Hassan district 462) is now correctly S. lasiocarpum Dunal. It is quite > distinct in usually blue flowers and more importantly densely hairy about > 1.5 cm across fruits, turning glossy red when mature. > > Solanum indicum of FBI 4:234 (non L.) is now S. violaceum Ortega (syn: S. > sodomeum L.)- It has blue purple flowers; both young and old fruits are > glabrous; mature berry is about 1 cm orange in colour. > > Some S. indicum specimens now correctly belong to S. anguivi, a species > with white flowers, but often with purple veins and small fruits almost red > when rip in raceme-like clusters. I am reproducing its description below: > > Shrub up to 3 m tall with spreading branches; stem often prickly, bearing > small, sessile stellate hairs with 4–8 arms. Leaves alternate, simple; > stipules absent; petiole 2–6 cm long, densely stellate-hairy; blade > elliptical-ovate, 10–20 cm × 5–10 cm, sinuate to distinctly lobed, with 2–4 > pairs of lobes 2–3 cm long, base oblique, cuneate or occasionally truncate > or subcordate, apex acute to obtuse, on both surfaces with more or less > sessile stellate hairs having 6–10 more or less equal arms. Inflorescence a > raceme-like cyme, extra-axillary, 5–15-flowered, occasionally flowers > solitary. Flowers usually bisexual, occasionally the distal flowers with > short styles and functionally male, regular, usually 5-merous; pedicel 4–15 > mm long; calyx densely hairy, lobes c. 3 mm long; corolla stellate, 6–12 mm > in diameter, white, occasionally with pale purple veins on the outer > surface, stellate hairy outside, more or less glabrous inside; stamens > alternate with corolla lobes, filaments short and thick, anthers connivent, > yellow, opening by terminal pores; ovary superior, 2–6-celled, style about > as long as stamens, stigma small. Fruit a subglobose berry 7–18 mm in > diameter, smooth, green or white when young, red when ripe, in clusters of > up to 20 fruits; stalk 8–15 mm long, usually erect, occasionally decurved. > Seeds subreniform, 2–3 mm long. Seedling with epigeal germination; > cotyledons thin, leafy. > > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Rashida Atthar <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Perhaps, but the earlier name of the species in Dr. Almeida's flora are as >> follows: Solanum lasiocarpum Dunal, S. ferox auct non. Linn., 1763); Wight, >> S. indicum Linn., S. involucratum Bl., S. Kurzii Brace in Prain, S. hirsutum >> Roxb. Let us wait for experts ID. We may both we incorrect ! >> >> regards, >> Rashida. >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:20 AM, tanay bose <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> It do sometime have round fruit ( rare 1 out of 5000) but you can check >>> from any database the species name came from the structure of the fruit. >>> Tanay >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Rashida Atthar < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Well Tanay ji Dr. Almeida's flora says " Berry globose, 2-3 cm in >>>> diameter, densely covered with long fulvous hair. Seeds 2.5 mm in diameter >>>> faintly rugose with concentric ring". There is line drawing also of the >>>> leaves and fruits. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> Rashida >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:06 AM, tanay bose <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think there is no chance of *S mammosum* , as the species name >>>>> suggest the fruits looks like the cow's udder (mammary gland) . Please >>>>> sthe >>>>> photos from my earlier post at Eflora >>>>> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/b5b894fba4ba9a83/add7b9f8711c8e1a?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=solanum+mammosum#add7b9f8711c8e1a >>>>> >>>>> Tanay >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Rashida Atthar < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Could this possibly be Solanum mammosum Lour. , basing this on the >>>>>> leaf description and yellow slender prickles on both sides. Colour of >>>>>> flowers not given in Dr. Almeida's flora. >>>>>> >>>>>> Raghu ji thanks for posting so many amazing pics of the different >>>>>> species of Solanum together, and with Dr. Kunhikannan' s expertise it >>>>>> will >>>>>> give us a lot of correct Ids. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> Rashida. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> SOS for Kunhikannan ji, our expert on Solanum. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:08 AM, tanay bose >>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Right you are Sir this *Solanum* really makes me mad some times !! >>>>>>>> Any clue from your side? >>>>>>>> tanay >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tanay, I think S. viarum is supposed to have white flowers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:41 PM, tanay bose < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the last post my guess is Solanum viarum >>>>>>>>>> tanay >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:39 PM, tanay bose < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is it Solanum indicum? >>>>>>>>>>> Tanay >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:31 PM, raghu ananth < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regional Mullu Badane [Kannada] meaning Eggplant with thorns in >>>>>>>>>>>> the leaf >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Purple flowers, thorns in the leaf veins (both upper and lower), >>>>>>>>>>>> and in the stem. 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