Flora of China says Mountain slopes, forests, mountain valleys, wastelands, below 2000 m for *Paulownia fortunei* (Seemann) Hemsley in F. B. Forbes & Hemsley <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020797> and Usually cultivated, below 1800 m for *Paulownia tomentosa <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210001437>*
On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 12:09, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < [email protected]> wrote: > Garg Ji, all of my photographs at efloraofindia are from the same > location and trees. I have another set of photographs from Solan, > which I perceive to be P. fortunei. > > Regards > > > On 5/19/20, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Were the flowering images from the same tree ? > > > > On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 10:46, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Also send original image of fruit. > >> > >> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 10:45, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Pl. check if the pericarp was woody. > >>> But proportional shape is clearly of *Paulownia fortunei * > >>> > >>> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 10:28, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Garg ji, fruit size is also important. In this case, fruits are only > >>>> 3-4 > >>>> cm long (not more than 6cm as in case of O. fortunii). I have seen > >>>> other > >>>> plants as well but not the fruits in that case. > >>>> Actually, both species were introduced in India by the Forest Research > >>>> Institute Dehradun. I may be having flowering twigs of other species > as > >>>> well and will report back to you. > >>>> Regards > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, 19 May, 2020, 10:05 AM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On thoroughly checking on net and all our posts, I think *Paulownia > >>>>> tomentosa *and *Paulownia fortunei *quite confusing. I could not find > >>>>> the difference between the two on net anywhere except in Flora of > >>>>> China. > >>>>> > >>>>> Keys in Flora of China > >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177> > >>>>> are as below: > >>>>> 4 (1) > >>>>> < > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-1> > >>>>> *Capsule > >>>>> oblong to oblong-ellipsoid, 6-10 cm*; pericarp woody, 3-6 mm; > >>>>> inflorescences subcylindric; corolla ventral plaits inconspicuous; > >>>>> calyx > >>>>> 2-2.5 cm 4 Paulownia fortunei > >>>>> < > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020797> > >>>>> + *Capsule ovoid, ovoid-ellipsoid, or ellipsoid, 3-5.5 cm*; pericarp > >>>>> not woody, to 3 mm; inflorescences pyramidal or narrowly conical; > >>>>> corolla > >>>>> ventral plaits conspicuous; calyx to 2 cm. (5) > >>>>> < > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-5> > >>>>> > >>>>> 5 (4) > >>>>> < > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-4> > >>>>> Capsule > >>>>> viscid-glandular hairy; calyx lobes as long as or longer than tube, > >>>>> not > >>>>> glabrescent 1 Paulownia tomentosa > >>>>> < > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020800> > >>>>> + Capsule pubescent when young; calyx lobes shorter than tube, partly > >>>>> glabrescent. (6) > >>>>> < > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-6> > >>>>> > >>>>> Pl see the illustration of both as below: > >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3556&flora_id=2 > >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3554&flora_id=2 > >>>>> > >>>>> *From flowers it is very difficult to arriva eat the species. Also > >>>>> aspect of calyx is also confusing. I think most important character > to > >>>>> separate the two is the fruit*. > >>>>> > >>>>> *From fruit shape, I think it should be **Paulownia fortunei *as in > >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3554&flora_id=2 > >>>>> https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/paulownia-fortunei/ > >>>>> > >>>>> Fruit shape of *Paulownia tomentosa *is different as per > >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3556&flora_id=2 > >>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?kempercode=a888 > >>>>> https://landscapeplants.oregonstate.edu/plants/paulownia-tomentosa > >>>>> https://www.invasiveplantatlas.org/subject.html?sub=2426 > >>>>> > >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- > >>>>> From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> > >>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 21:01 > >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:306297] Re: Paulownia tomentosa > >>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Posting some more photographs of this highly beautiful ornamental > >>>>> tree. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards > >>>>> > >>>>> On Monday, 15 December 2014 22:29:04 UTC+5:30, Anil Thakur wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Respected Members, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It is a beautiful deciduous tree which flowers in March/April. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Botanical name: Paulownia tomentosa > >>>>>> Common names: Empress tree, Princess tree, Foxglove tree > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur > >>>>>> Associate Professor (Botany) > >>>>>> Govt. 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