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From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 16:12
Subject: Re: [itpmods:14143] Which database to follow?
To: itpmods <[email protected]>


Yes, Singh ji,
We have to follow which we feel is more logical.

On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 16:05, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just an example I was looking up latest taxonomic status of *Polyalthia
> cerasoides* (Roxb.) Benth. & Hook.f. ex Bedd. listed in BSA Flora of
> India. Catalogue of Life showed it as synonym of *Hubera cerasoides *(Roxb.)
> Chaowasku, whereas Kew Database showed both as synonyms of Huberantha
> cerasoides (Roxb.) Chaowasku. On further looking up I found former
> published in 2012 and latter in 2015 by the same author, obviously it is
> logical to follow latter. Plus as I wrote Catalogue of Life simply does not
> list many names.
>
>
>
>
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
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>
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 1:54 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think WCSP
>> <https://wcsp.science.kew.org/prepareChecklist.do;jsessionid=C401F4DE7044C35CF77D2DBD86891292.kppapp06-wcsp?checklist=selected_families%40%40003030120200907348>
>>  is
>> one of the most reliable, but limited only to a limited number of families
>> (The checklist includes 200 Seed Plant families (View list of included
>> families <https://wcsp.science.kew.org/incfamilies.do>))- It was earlier
>> relied upon by The Plant List for these families (but was based on fixed
>> data submitted to them in 2012) and now by The Catalogue of Life as well as
>> POWO depend on this for most of these families.
>> Then there are others like Catalogue of Life and POWO. GBIF relies on
>> Catalogue of Life, but names of synonymous species (which were at some
>> point were accepted) are also shown on the thumbnails in the gallery (in
>> case there is some different treatment by somebody else). But Catalogue of
>> life does not indicate bibliography as is being done in GRIN earlier and
>> now in POWO (so we do not know upto what date publications have been
>> considered). But if it gives detailed distribution, it may be considered
>> that a wide range of sources have been considered.
>> Then there are eFloras (like those of China, Pakistan and Nepal), which
>> were published online in the early 2000.
>> Then one may not find one species in some of the databases due to some
>> slight difference in spelling in the middle or at the end of the name.
>> Earlier it was GRIN, which has almost gone now. Then came ITIS and The
>> Plant List, a good attempt to start with. These are almost replaced by
>> WCSP, Catalogue of Life, Plants of the World Online etc.
>> It is good to see competition. And it is always better to consult a few
>> of them rather than depending on one. *And finally choose one that you
>> feel is better for a particular species, genus or family depending upon
>> from where the underlying data is coming from*.
>> Recently there has been widespread changes in many genera, but we have to
>> consciously see and decide if we have to follow them for the sake of
>> familiarity or not.
>> The opinion of the Experts on our group in the past or future, may also
>> be considered.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 12:47, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> While following different databases for last few years, I have seen
>>> totally different taxonomic treatments in these: Kew Database (Plants of
>>> The World Online), World Flora Online (replacement for TPL) and Catalogue
>>> of Life (April 2020 Beta version).
>>>      I have mostly been following the Catalogue of Life, but while
>>> preparing the list of species reported from India, I noticed that several
>>> species are not even listed in this database. I could find all these in Kew
>>> Database. This raises a big question, which database we should follow for
>>> the sake of unanimity. As different volunteers are working for updation of
>>> our website, we need to develop consensus. As per my recent experience I
>>> would vote for Kew Database. Your opinions please to reach an agreed
>>> solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Mob: 9810359089
>>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1
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>>
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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia
website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20).

The whole world uses my Image Resource
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thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.


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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia
website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20).

The whole world uses my Image Resource
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thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.

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