---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 17:09 Subject: Re: [itpmods:14145] Which database to follow? To: itpmods <[email protected]>
Yes Gurucharan Sir, I find a lot of discrepancies as well. Sme names in POWO is completely different which is not mentioned in any other sites and accepted names/ synonyms v.v.. Thank you. Saroj Kasaju On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:27 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, Singh ji, > We have to follow which we feel is more logical. > > On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 16:05, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just an example I was looking up latest taxonomic status of *Polyalthia >> cerasoides* (Roxb.) Benth. & Hook.f. ex Bedd. listed in BSA Flora of >> India. Catalogue of Life showed it as synonym of *Hubera cerasoides *(Roxb.) >> Chaowasku, whereas Kew Database showed both as synonyms of Huberantha >> cerasoides (Roxb.) Chaowasku. On further looking up I found former >> published in 2012 and latter in 2015 by the same author, obviously it is >> logical to follow latter. Plus as I wrote Catalogue of Life simply does not >> list many names. >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Mob: 9810359089 >> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 1:54 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think WCSP >>> <https://wcsp.science.kew.org/prepareChecklist.do;jsessionid=C401F4DE7044C35CF77D2DBD86891292.kppapp06-wcsp?checklist=selected_families%40%40003030120200907348> >>> is >>> one of the most reliable, but limited only to a limited number of families >>> (The checklist includes 200 Seed Plant families (View list of included >>> families <https://wcsp.science.kew.org/incfamilies.do>))- It was >>> earlier relied upon by The Plant List for these families (but was based on >>> fixed data submitted to them in 2012) and now by The Catalogue of Life as >>> well as POWO depend on this for most of these families. >>> Then there are others like Catalogue of Life and POWO. GBIF relies on >>> Catalogue of Life, but names of synonymous species (which were at some >>> point were accepted) are also shown on the thumbnails in the gallery (in >>> case there is some different treatment by somebody else). But Catalogue of >>> life does not indicate bibliography as is being done in GRIN earlier and >>> now in POWO (so we do not know upto what date publications have been >>> considered). But if it gives detailed distribution, it may be considered >>> that a wide range of sources have been considered. >>> Then there are eFloras (like those of China, Pakistan and Nepal), which >>> were published online in the early 2000. >>> Then one may not find one species in some of the databases due to some >>> slight difference in spelling in the middle or at the end of the name. >>> Earlier it was GRIN, which has almost gone now. Then came ITIS and The >>> Plant List, a good attempt to start with. These are almost replaced by >>> WCSP, Catalogue of Life, Plants of the World Online etc. >>> It is good to see competition. And it is always better to consult a few >>> of them rather than depending on one. *And finally choose one that you >>> feel is better for a particular species, genus or family depending upon >>> from where the underlying data is coming from*. >>> Recently there has been widespread changes in many genera, but we have >>> to consciously see and decide if we have to follow them for the sake of >>> familiarity or not. >>> The opinion of the Experts on our group in the past or future, may also >>> be considered. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 12:47, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> While following different databases for last few years, I have seen >>>> totally different taxonomic treatments in these: Kew Database (Plants of >>>> The World Online), World Flora Online (replacement for TPL) and Catalogue >>>> of Life (April 2020 Beta version). >>>> I have mostly been following the Catalogue of Life, but while >>>> preparing the list of species reported from India, I noticed that several >>>> species are not even listed in this database. I could find all these in Kew >>>> Database. This raises a big question, which database we should follow for >>>> the sake of unanimity. As different volunteers are working for updation of >>>> our website, we need to develop consensus. As per my recent experience I >>>> would vote for Kew Database. Your opinions please to reach an agreed >>>> solution. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpWR9XF_2-nTWjDZO0JmrrqDXyZmcK75kt6JX_XQMJS0OA%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpWR9XF_2-nTWjDZO0JmrrqDXyZmcK75kt6JX_XQMJS0OA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>> Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>> 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). >>> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAEf%3DytRB3ExDTEopU8aCwA7SEjq4R5pHAp4BjKVXbo70bXKDig%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAEf%3DytRB3ExDTEopU8aCwA7SEjq4R5pHAp4BjKVXbo70bXKDig%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. 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