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From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 17:06
Subject: Re: [itpmods:14069] Ideas for our future efloraofindia
To: itpmods <[email protected]>


Thanks, Giby ji.
We have already listed a lot of species. More can be added by members
concerned. Or can be sent in any format to me and I will include them in
the genus and family page.
Already D S Rawat ji has added a lot of species on many genera pages.
I feel anybody can start the work on any genus/ family and pass it on to
us, in the way he likes (any standard format which is decided), so that
this is incorporated in efloraofindia site.

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 16:51, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thank you Gargji, Gurcharanji and Santhish ji,
>
> Gargji, my point is that if we have a compiled list we would get to know
> which are the species that we dont have image and other info.
> We can further work towards by focusing these species with more emphasis.
>
> Regards
> Giby
>
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 14:11 Dr E S Santhosh Kumar, <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes,  it sounds good,  a good idea to be implemented. No one has started
>> such a programme for the time being.
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 12:59 pm Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wonderful idea. Several lists can be incorporated into common database,
>>> one column for each state of India, one common for plants outside India.
>>> These can be compiled from National Flora (BSI, Far from being complete),
>>> regional Floras, and checklists. It would be very helpful if our last
>>> column is brief reference to the literature source, so that any additions
>>> made after publication of various sources are well referenced. One column
>>> (suitably placed) can be used to indicate link to efloraofindia entry
>>> (images, description,etc.). Once a common datasheet is approved, different
>>> volunteers can pick us different alphabets and compile information. In that
>>> manner stitching the data together, and and when done by a volunteer,
>>> would be very convenient.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Mob: 9810359089
>>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 12:25 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Giby ji.
>>>> Wonderful suggestion.
>>>> We were already moving in that direction for a long time.
>>>> In fact, this work was started (may be around 2012 or so) much before
>>>> we knew how to insert images in our site and have comparative images.
>>>> Just to give you an example, pl. see one page say Ziziphus
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rhamnaceae/ziziphus>
>>>>  (this
>>>> has been built over small additions many a time)
>>>> Here we are also verifying the correct nomenclature with different
>>>> resources like Catalogue of Life, WCSP, POWO, efloras, The Plant List
>>>> Ver. 1.1, GRIN etc.
>>>> Genera with many species were taken up first. I think about 70 % work
>>>> is already completed. Rest needs to be done although one may differ on the
>>>> pattern to be followed.
>>>> Good thing is that we are basing all this on online resources (though
>>>> some may be coming from offline resources), for every one to see and decide
>>>> on the authenticity.
>>>>
>>>> Based on the above, you may further give your suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 11:55, Giby Kuriakose <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a good initiative, I think.
>>>>> I am sure that we shall move ahead to the next level with precision.
>>>>>
>>>>> May I share one of my thoughts.
>>>>> I feel that we do not have a compiled checklist of plants of India.
>>>>> Even I do not know whether any state does have the same.
>>>>> I am wondering whether it is possible for us to have a list of plants
>>>>> country/region/state/area wise (or even family wise).
>>>>> Then we can see how many of them we have in our database with
>>>>> information.
>>>>> If we have such a list in excel and available in the drive for others
>>>>> to edit, then it will be great!
>>>>> However, I know the fact that it would not be that easy. It will be a
>>>>> herculean task.
>>>>> But as we, the determined and dedicated people around, we shall think
>>>>> of making it possible.
>>>>> If such a list is available and adding the list with new species or
>>>>> species that are not yet listed, then searching for images or information
>>>>> will be easy.
>>>>> Further if we can compile the data in an excel sheet, the moderators
>>>>> shall have a first look and suggest for inclusions at first hand and then,
>>>>> if needed, shall put it in group.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Giby
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:06 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Dinesh ji.
>>>>>> One thing I am feeling now that we have to seek images actively,
>>>>>> particularly those species which we do not have.
>>>>>> This I have been trying to do for the past few months with good
>>>>>> success.
>>>>>> Most of the persons you write to, are generally willing to help us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 17:53, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Garg ji.
>>>>>>> It is a good and worthy suggestion.
>>>>>>> Technology keeps on changing and there may have come friendlier
>>>>>>> writing interfaces for documentation, which we are not aware of.
>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 5:26 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>> Ideas are all powerful.
>>>>>>>> As one idea from Dinesh ji of creating efloraofindia site around 10
>>>>>>>> years back, resulted in all these efforts being combined and displayed 
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> over the world.
>>>>>>>> There may be many ideas looming in all of yours mind all the while,
>>>>>>>> but not being said.
>>>>>>>> I request everyone to say your mind.
>>>>>>>> Maybe they are not implementable at this stage. Maybe we do not
>>>>>>>> have sufficient time now, but can be thought of in future or can be
>>>>>>>> implemented by someone else.
>>>>>>>> Even small changes can be worthwhile.
>>>>>>>> So, pl. suggest a few things here.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
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>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia
>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a
>>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which
>>>>>>>> more than 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20).
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
>>>>>> .
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>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
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>>>>>> Efloraofindia
>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a
>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which
>>>>>> more than 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20).
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>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
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>>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants 
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>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>
>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>>
>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.
>>>>
>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in
>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or 
>>>> Efloraofindia
>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
>>>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
>>>> 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20).
>>>>
>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>>
>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>>>> India'.
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-- 
With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia
website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20).

The whole world uses my Image Resource
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.


-- 
With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia
website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20).

The whole world uses my Image Resource
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.

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