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From: D.S Rawat <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 22:10
Subject: Re: [itpmods:14069] Ideas for our future efloraofindia
To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>


https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/b/balsaminaceae/impatiens

It is a very long page and list of species is after images.

DSRawat Pantnagar

On Wed, 24 Jun, 2020, 9:11 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Pl. see listing at one page being done by Vijayasankar ji at Ranunculus
> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/ranunculaceae/ranunculus>
> Pl. see another page which I have done at Saxifraga
> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/saxifragaceae/saxifraga>
>
> Hi, Rawat ji,
> Can you show some pages which you have done listing almost all species?
>
> In fact any format is acceptable as long as it serves our purpose of
> listing all possible species.
>
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 17:06, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Giby ji.
>> We have already listed a lot of species. More can be added by members
>> concerned. Or can be sent in any format to me and I will include them in
>> the genus and family page.
>> Already D S Rawat ji has added a lot of species on many genera pages.
>> I feel anybody can start the work on any genus/ family and pass it on to
>> us, in the way he likes (any standard format which is decided), so that
>> this is incorporated in efloraofindia site.
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 16:51, Giby Kuriakose <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Gargji, Gurcharanji and Santhish ji,
>>>
>>> Gargji, my point is that if we have a compiled list we would get to know
>>> which are the species that we dont have image and other info.
>>> We can further work towards by focusing these species with more
>>> emphasis.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Giby
>>>
>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 14:11 Dr E S Santhosh Kumar, <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes,  it sounds good,  a good idea to be implemented. No one has
>>>> started such a programme for the time being.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 12:59 pm Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wonderful idea. Several lists can be incorporated into common
>>>>> database, one column for each state of India, one common for plants 
>>>>> outside
>>>>> India. These can be compiled from National Flora (BSI, Far from being
>>>>> complete), regional Floras, and checklists. It would be very helpful if 
>>>>> our
>>>>> last column is brief reference to the literature source, so that any
>>>>> additions made after publication of various sources are well referenced.
>>>>> One column (suitably placed) can be used to indicate link to efloraofindia
>>>>> entry (images, description,etc.). Once a common datasheet is approved,
>>>>> different volunteers can pick us different alphabets and compile
>>>>> information. In that manner stitching the data together, and and when done
>>>>> by a volunteer,  would be very convenient.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>> Mob: 9810359089
>>>>> https://sing96.wixsite.com/mysite-1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 12:25 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Giby ji.
>>>>>> Wonderful suggestion.
>>>>>> We were already moving in that direction for a long time.
>>>>>> In fact, this work was started (may be around 2012 or so) much before
>>>>>> we knew how to insert images in our site and have comparative images.
>>>>>> Just to give you an example, pl. see one page say Ziziphus
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rhamnaceae/ziziphus>
>>>>>>  (this
>>>>>> has been built over small additions many a time)
>>>>>> Here we are also verifying the correct nomenclature with different
>>>>>> resources like Catalogue of Life, WCSP, POWO, efloras, The Plant List
>>>>>> Ver. 1.1, GRIN etc.
>>>>>> Genera with many species were taken up first. I think about 70 % work
>>>>>> is already completed. Rest needs to be done although one may differ on 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> pattern to be followed.
>>>>>> Good thing is that we are basing all this on online resources (though
>>>>>> some may be coming from offline resources), for every one to see and 
>>>>>> decide
>>>>>> on the authenticity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Based on the above, you may further give your suggestions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 11:55, Giby Kuriakose <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is a good initiative, I think.
>>>>>>> I am sure that we shall move ahead to the next level with
>>>>>>> precision.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May I share one of my thoughts.
>>>>>>> I feel that we do not have a compiled checklist of plants of India.
>>>>>>> Even I do not know whether any state does have the same.
>>>>>>> I am wondering whether it is possible for us to have a list of
>>>>>>> plants country/region/state/area wise (or even family wise).
>>>>>>> Then we can see how many of them we have in our database with
>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>> If we have such a list in excel and available in the drive for
>>>>>>> others to edit, then it will be great!
>>>>>>> However, I know the fact that it would not be that easy. It will be
>>>>>>> a herculean task.
>>>>>>> But as we, the determined and dedicated people around, we shall
>>>>>>> think of making it possible.
>>>>>>> If such a list is available and adding the list with new species or
>>>>>>> species that are not yet listed, then searching for images or 
>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>> will be easy.
>>>>>>> Further if we can compile the data in an excel sheet, the moderators
>>>>>>> shall have a first look and suggest for inclusions at first hand and 
>>>>>>> then,
>>>>>>> if needed, shall put it in group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Giby
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:06 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Dinesh ji.
>>>>>>>> One thing I am feeling now that we have to seek images actively,
>>>>>>>> particularly those species which we do not have.
>>>>>>>> This I have been trying to do for the past few months with good
>>>>>>>> success.
>>>>>>>> Most of the persons you write to, are generally willing to help us.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 17:53, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Garg ji.
>>>>>>>>> It is a good and worthy suggestion.
>>>>>>>>> Technology keeps on changing and there may have come friendlier
>>>>>>>>> writing interfaces for documentation, which we are not aware of.
>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 5:26 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>> Ideas are all powerful.
>>>>>>>>>> As one idea from Dinesh ji of creating efloraofindia site around
>>>>>>>>>> 10 years back, resulted in all these efforts being combined and 
>>>>>>>>>> displayed
>>>>>>>>>> all over the world.
>>>>>>>>>> There may be many ideas looming in all of yours mind all the
>>>>>>>>>> while, but not being said.
>>>>>>>>>> I request everyone to say your mind.
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe they are not implementable at this stage. Maybe we do not
>>>>>>>>>> have sufficient time now, but can be thought of in future or can be
>>>>>>>>>> implemented by someone else.
>>>>>>>>>> Even small changes can be worthwhile.
>>>>>>>>>> So, pl. suggest a few things here.
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>
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>> With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>>
>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>
>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.
>>
>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
>> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or 
>> Efloraofindia
>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
>> 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20).
>>
>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>
>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>> India'.
>>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>
> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.
>
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
> world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or 
> Efloraofindia
> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
> 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20).
>
> The whole world uses my Image Resource
> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>
> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
> India'.
>


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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the
world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia
website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species
database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than
2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20).

The whole world uses my Image Resource
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
(arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
India'.

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