Hi, Tapas ji, Any specific reasons it can not be G. lanceolarium ? On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 19:05, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> wrote:
> Certainly not G. lanceolarium. > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020, 14:27 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Looks like matching with descriptions, elevation and fruiting phenology. >> We shall wait for validation from Tapas Da! >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:22 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> After pursuing the publication attached by Saroj ji and posts in >>> efloraofindia, I feel it is different from both *G.acuminatum *and *G. >>> triandrum *(GBIF >>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3080329>). >>> It also looks different from *Glochidion bourdillonii *Gamble as per >>> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/3080558> specimens. >>> I think it appears close to *Glochidion lanceolarium *as per GBIF >>> specimens from India >>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&country=NP&taxon_key=3080126> >>> as >>> below: >>> >>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2219776%2Fformat%2Flarge >>> >>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2219779%2Fformat%2Flarge >>> >>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F52174.jpg >>> >>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2219778%2Fformat%2Flarge >>> >>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1505633%3AMICH-V-1505633%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg >>> Also see other references as GBIF >>> <https://www.gbif.org/en/species/3080126> (High resolution specimens) Plant >>> illustrations >>> <http://plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=468402> Research >>> Gate >>> <https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Flowers-fruit-and-pollinator-of-Glochidion-lanceolarium-A-Glochidion-lanceolarium_fig1_312343182> >>> Flora of China >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242323521> FoC >>> illustration >>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=109843&flora_id=2> >>> >>> Hi, Tapas ji, >>> Pl. have re-look. >>> >>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 19:44, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Thank you Tapas Da! >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 7:58 PM Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In that case further studies required. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020, 19:25 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Tapas Da! >>>>>> >>>>>> I could not decide since it looks different from earlier identified Re: >>>>>> SK 2289 12 November 2019 >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/SK$202289$2012$20November$202019/indiantreepix/tTmox_BA3h8/xId9Zc__AgAJ> >>>>>> ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 6:30 PM Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Saroj ji, >>>>>>> Thank you so much for sharing the publication. Now please decide. Is >>>>>>> your plant not Glochidion acuminatum? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020, 11:58 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Tapas Da, >>>>>>>> Forwarding a link for your kind perusal. >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:12 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Who knows! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020, 19:56 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OK Tapas Da ! I hope not a new sp.🤔! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:09 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Saroj ji, >>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion assamicum is now a synonym of G. ellipticum, >>>>>>>>>>> characterised by shallowly 4-lobed fruits. Meanwhile I have also >>>>>>>>>>> checked >>>>>>>>>>> the neotype of G. triandrum from Philippines. Your plant is not that >>>>>>>>>>> species either. The real identity can be established only through >>>>>>>>>>> further >>>>>>>>>>> studies. >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Tapas. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020, 19:44 Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Tapas Da, I have obtained herbarium image from National >>>>>>>>>>>> Herbarium for >>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion assamicum (Müll.Arg.) Hook.f. . Does it look like >>>>>>>>>>>> matching?? >>>>>>>>>>>> And what about the elevation?? EFN says 100m. and Herb. sp. >>>>>>>>>>>> says 790m. >>>>>>>>>>>> and it was shot at 1600m. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:39 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Only confusion is book from Nepal Govt. mentioning G. >>>>>>>>>>>>> acuminatum as syn which does not look like correct! >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:36 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Tapas Da! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:35 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This species was described from Philippines. Fl. China is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also listing this species in India and Nepal. Unfortunately I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have not seen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any specimen. At least it does not occur in India. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 21:10 Saroj Kasaju, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some links Tapas Da ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion triandrum (Blanco) C.B.Rob. Synonym of: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phyllanthus triandrus (Blanco) Müll.Arg. P >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:349678-1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OWO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion triandrum (Blanco) C.B.Rob. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/e3a06307c450d774016a7bd1d20e25b1/synonym/954689ccb3169e09fba6102fe220df15> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phyllanthus triandrus (Blanco) Müll.Arg. | Species | India >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biodiversity ...treesindia.indiabiodiversity.org › species › >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiX6NOr0dnqAhVsyzgGHcM5AM8QFjASegQICRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftreesindia.indiabiodiversity.org%2Fspecies%2Fshow%2F280451&usg=AOvVaw152lWqp12_BodYeTXkAjqE> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I am not sure about whatever published in the book of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nepal ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:10 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies. I really do not know G. triandrum. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 20:42 Saroj Kasaju, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK Tapas Da ! My mistake! I mean to say G. triandrum! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 8:31 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not G. lanceolarium. What is G. trivandrum I do not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know. I suggest further studies. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 16:47 Saroj Kasaju, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion bourdillonii subsp. bhutanicum is not listed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Nepal ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion lanceolarium (Roxb.) Voigt ??? or G. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trivandrum ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 8:35 AM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please also try Glochidion bourdillonii subsp. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bhutanicum. If not that then further detailed studies are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 00:02 Tapas Chakrabarty, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only other option is *Glochidion nubigenum *but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T. C. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 2:09 PM J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Tapas ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These images look different from other images at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acuminatum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/p/phyllanthaceae/glochidion/glochidion-acuminatum> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 22:44 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: SK 2646 02 July 2020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraindia <[email protected]>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M. Garg <[email protected]>, Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:57 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:57 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:57 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:56 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:56 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Dahachok, Kathmandu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 23 June 2020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 1600 m. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat: Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this Glochidion ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKFjQVT_rwu61eYbNMeFnVAe96cUUDZRRa%3D03V4TMQZntThiQg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKFjQVT_rwu61eYbNMeFnVAe96cUUDZRRa%3D03V4TMQZntThiQg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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