Glochidion lanceolarium is distinct by the 5-8-locular ovary and capsules. The present images show 3-4-locular capsules.
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020, 21:51 J.M. Garg, <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Tapas ji, > Any specific reasons it can not be G. lanceolarium ? > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 19:05, Tapas Chakrabarty <tchak...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Certainly not G. lanceolarium. >> >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020, 14:27 Saroj Kasaju, <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Looks like matching with descriptions, elevation and fruiting phenology. >>> We shall wait for validation from Tapas Da! >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:22 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> After pursuing the publication attached by Saroj ji and posts in >>>> efloraofindia, I feel it is different from both *G.acuminatum *and *G. >>>> triandrum *(GBIF >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3080329>). >>>> It also looks different from *Glochidion bourdillonii *Gamble as per >>>> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/3080558> specimens. >>>> I think it appears close to *Glochidion lanceolarium *as per GBIF >>>> specimens from India >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&country=NP&taxon_key=3080126> >>>> as >>>> below: >>>> >>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2219776%2Fformat%2Flarge >>>> >>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2219779%2Fformat%2Flarge >>>> >>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F52174.jpg >>>> >>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2219778%2Fformat%2Flarge >>>> >>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1505633%3AMICH-V-1505633%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg >>>> Also see other references as GBIF >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/en/species/3080126> (High resolution specimens) Plant >>>> illustrations >>>> <http://plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=468402> Research >>>> Gate >>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Flowers-fruit-and-pollinator-of-Glochidion-lanceolarium-A-Glochidion-lanceolarium_fig1_312343182> >>>> Flora of China >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242323521> >>>> FoC illustration >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=109843&flora_id=2> >>>> >>>> Hi, Tapas ji, >>>> Pl. have re-look. >>>> >>>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 19:44, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Tapas Da! >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 7:58 PM Tapas Chakrabarty <tchak...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In that case further studies required. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020, 19:25 Saroj Kasaju, <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Tapas Da! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I could not decide since it looks different from earlier identified Re: >>>>>>> SK 2289 12 November 2019 >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/SK$202289$2012$20November$202019/indiantreepix/tTmox_BA3h8/xId9Zc__AgAJ> >>>>>>> ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 6:30 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>> tchak...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Saroj ji, >>>>>>>> Thank you so much for sharing the publication. Now please decide. >>>>>>>> Is your plant not Glochidion acuminatum? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020, 11:58 Saroj Kasaju, <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Tapas Da, >>>>>>>>> Forwarding a link for your kind perusal. >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:12 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>> tchak...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Who knows! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020, 19:56 Saroj Kasaju, <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> OK Tapas Da ! I hope not a new sp.🤔! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:09 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>>> tchak...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Saroj ji, >>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion assamicum is now a synonym of G. ellipticum, >>>>>>>>>>>> characterised by shallowly 4-lobed fruits. Meanwhile I have also >>>>>>>>>>>> checked >>>>>>>>>>>> the neotype of G. triandrum from Philippines. Your plant is not >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> species either. The real identity can be established only through >>>>>>>>>>>> further >>>>>>>>>>>> studies. >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Tapas. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020, 19:44 Saroj Kasaju, <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Tapas Da, I have obtained herbarium image from National >>>>>>>>>>>>> Herbarium for >>>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion assamicum (Müll.Arg.) Hook.f. . Does it look like >>>>>>>>>>>>> matching?? >>>>>>>>>>>>> And what about the elevation?? EFN says 100m. and Herb. sp. >>>>>>>>>>>>> says 790m. >>>>>>>>>>>>> and it was shot at 1600m. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:39 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only confusion is book from Nepal Govt. mentioning G. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> acuminatum as syn which does not look like correct! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:36 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Tapas Da! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:35 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tchak...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This species was described from Philippines. Fl. China is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also listing this species in India and Nepal. Unfortunately I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have not seen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any specimen. At least it does not occur in India. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 21:10 Saroj Kasaju, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some links Tapas Da ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion triandrum (Blanco) C.B.Rob. Synonym of: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phyllanthus triandrus (Blanco) Müll.Arg. P >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:349678-1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OWO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion triandrum (Blanco) C.B.Rob. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/e3a06307c450d774016a7bd1d20e25b1/synonym/954689ccb3169e09fba6102fe220df15> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phyllanthus triandrus (Blanco) Müll.Arg. | Species | India >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biodiversity ...treesindia.indiabiodiversity.org › species › >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiX6NOr0dnqAhVsyzgGHcM5AM8QFjASegQICRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftreesindia.indiabiodiversity.org%2Fspecies%2Fshow%2F280451&usg=AOvVaw152lWqp12_BodYeTXkAjqE> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I am not sure about whatever published in the book of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nepal ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:10 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tchak...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies. I really do not know G. triandrum. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 20:42 Saroj Kasaju, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK Tapas Da ! My mistake! I mean to say G. triandrum! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 8:31 PM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tchak...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not G. lanceolarium. What is G. trivandrum I do not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know. I suggest further studies. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 16:47 Saroj Kasaju, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion bourdillonii subsp. bhutanicum is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listed in Nepal ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion lanceolarium (Roxb.) Voigt ??? or G. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trivandrum ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 8:35 AM Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tchak...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please also try Glochidion bourdillonii subsp. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bhutanicum. If not that then further detailed studies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are required. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, 00:02 Tapas Chakrabarty, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tchak...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only other option is *Glochidion nubigenum *but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T. C. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 2:09 PM J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Tapas ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These images look different from other images at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glochidion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acuminatum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/p/phyllanthaceae/glochidion/glochidion-acuminatum> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 22:44 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: SK 2646 02 July 2020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>, Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tchak...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:57 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:57 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:57 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:56 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:56 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Dahachok, Kathmandu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 23 June 2020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 1600 m. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat: Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this Glochidion ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKFjQVT_rwu61eYbNMeFnVAe96cUUDZRRa%3D03V4TMQZntThiQg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKFjQVT_rwu61eYbNMeFnVAe96cUUDZRRa%3D03V4TMQZntThiQg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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