Thank you Garg ji for pointing out this herbarium specimen from Manipur! Yes, it agrees well. Tabish ------------------------------------------- <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net The waterhole of flower lovers
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 1:24 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Tabish ji. > I think you are right. > I checked in GBIF for specimens from India > <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=5338199> > and it seems to be correct as per Specimen from Manipur > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2966399%2Fformat%2Flarge>. > > Looks different from *Uncaria sessilifructus *Roxb. > <https://www.gbif.org/species/5338285> as per GBIF > <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=5338285>- > specimen > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2F1f26beb02153945a9d3992845eba950bd2fbfe6d%2Fcontents%2Fpreview> > in India, > > On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 at 20:57, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes Garg ji, >> I have been doing that. One feature I want to point out is that in the >> attached illustration of *Uncaria sessilifructus* I have marked some >> objects by red - they are bracts I guess. These are seen in the drawings at >> FOC and also in all herbarium images of *Uncaria sessilifructus* that I >> have seen. These objects are missing in the plant whose images I posted. >> These objects are also not there in the herbarium image of *Uncaria >> laevigata* at POWO. >> Leaf undersides don't appear glaucous, in the attached closeup of >> leaves. >> Tabish >> ------------------------------------------- >> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >> The waterhole of flower lovers >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 12:50 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Tabish ji, >>> Two species appears rather close as per keys from Flora of China >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=134135>: >>> 9 (8) >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=134135#KEY-1-8> >>> Leaf >>> blade not glaucous abaxially, with tertiary venation mostly reticulate and >>> not strongly scalariform on adaxial surface; peduncles simple; corolla >>> lobes externally glabrous; fruit 6-8 mm. 3 *U. laevigata* >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242353405> >>> + Leaf blade often glaucous abaxially, with tertiary venation rather >>> evidently scalariform at least on adaxial surface; peduncles simple or >>> often branched; corolla lobes externally sericeous; fruit 10-14 mm. 10 >>> *U. sessilifructus* >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200022243>You >>> have to examine closely these with the original images, to come to the >>> conclusion. >>> >>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 at 18:32, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I still think it is *Uncaria laevigata, *although I am not able to say >>>> it with full confidence. The details of the flowers agree with the images >>>> here: >>>> >>>> http://www.qsbg.org/Database/plantdb/herbarium/herbarium-specimen.asp?qsbgno=35035 >>>> Inflorescence and leaf underside do not appear to agree well with >>>> * Uncaria sessilifructus >>>> <http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:768311-1> * >>>> The hooked thorns in this genus are generally paired in most species. >>>> However, in my plant they don't seem to be paired. In the herbarium image >>>> of* >>>> Uncaria laevigata >>>> <http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:768268-1>* >>>> at POWO >>>> <http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:768268-1>, >>>> also don't seem to be paired. However, I could not find mention of the >>>> nature of thorns in the description at Flora of China. In many images of U. >>>> laevigata on GBIF too, I find unpaired thorns. Don't know if it is a >>>> feature of this species or a coincidence. >>>> My plant doesn't agree well with the illustration of Uncaria scandens >>>> here: >>>> http://www.plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustration=10875 >>>> Any more inputs will be welcome. >>>> Tabish >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *------------------------------------------- >>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>The waterhole of flower lovers* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 5:13 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected] >>>> <[email protected]>> wrote:Hi, Tabish ji,So what is it finally ?Also check >>>> Uncaria scandens (Sm.) Hutch. >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/uncaria/uncaria-scandens> >>>> On >>>> Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 23:44, Tabish <[email protected] <[email protected]>> >>>> wrote:Uncaria sessilifructus is reported from >>>> Manipur. >>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:768311-1 >>>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:768311-1> >>>> Tabish------------------------------------------- >>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>The waterhole of flower loversOn Tue, Nov >>>> 10, 2020 at 9:40 PM Nidhan Singh <[email protected] >>>> <[email protected]>> wrote:It is Uncaria sp.My post from Gori Valley >>>> was identified as Uncaria sessilifructus..Thanks -- You received this >>>> message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups >>>> "efloraofindia" group. 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