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Saussurea bracteata specimen in Kew Herbarium DSRawat Pantnagar On Thu, 19 Nov, 2020, 5:27 pm Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote: > Re: Saussurea bracteata > <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/yg9ImvP4yTE/m/3XZA5wn0AgAJ> > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 3:04 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Looks different from images at Saussurea bracteata >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/saussurea/saussurea-bracteata> >> >> On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 15:51, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Saussurea bracteata Decne. ?? >>> Thank you >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 at 20:48 >>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:253131] Kailash-Manasarovar >>> Yatra::Saussurea inversa NSJ-OCT 16/11 >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> Cc: D.S Rawat <[email protected]>, < >>> [email protected]>, Narendra Joshi <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>> >>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>> >>> Interesting Saussurea species. A trans-Himalayan one as I suppose. >>> S. inversa is not known in Uttarakhand. >>> DSRawat Pantnagar >>> >>> This is a new 'species' for me but I am doubtful it is *S.inversa* on >>> the basis of the image taken in Paddar Valley named as such on the FOI site >>> see: >>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Inverse%20Snow%20Lotus.html >>> which is presumably where the provisional name came from matching with? >>> Not recorded from Ladakh or known in Stewart's day (assuming it is found in >>> W.Himalaya). Not in 'Enumeration of Flowering Plants of Nepal'. Many >>> 'new' species have been described in the Himalaya in recent decades - a >>> complicated genus (like so many). >>> >>> As for existing species, there is much confusion between *S.simpsoniana* >>> and *S.gossypiphora* in the W.Himalaya. >>> >>> As two of our members named the image on the FOI site they are in a much >>> better position to comment further, especially as I do not recognise these >>> images or the one from the Paddar Valley but the images do not come close >>> to me. >>> >>> Just noticed that an article on Research Gate, see: >>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272383552_The_genus_Saussurea_Compositae_Cardueae_in_China_Taxonomic_and_nomenclatural_notes >>> states that *S.sorocephala* var. glabrata is raised to specific rank as >>> *S.inversa*. Stewart had *S.sorocephala* Schrenk as a synonym of >>> *S.gnaphalodes* (which is common in Laadkh); he thought this variety >>> seemed to be the same as *S.hypsipeta* Diels (yet does not list this >>> species in his Catalogue) and probably should be considered only to be a >>> glabrate form. *Saussurea hypsipeta* is listed by Dickore & Klimes >>> from Ladakh - there is an excellent image of it by our member Miroslav: >>> http://www.butbn.cas.cz/ladakh/fotky/flora/subnival_eng.html. >>> >>> Clearly, Miroslav may be able to comment in a more informed way than me. >>> >>> --- from Chris Chadwell ji. >>> >>> To me it appears close to *Saussurea glacialis* Herder >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/carduoideae/saussurea/saussurea-glacialis> >>> as >>> per image herein. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Narendra Joshi <[email protected]> >>> Date: 6 October 2016 at 22:48 >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:253131] Kailash-Manasarovar Yatra::Saussurea >>> inversa NSJ-OCT 16/11 >>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Saussurea inversa for validation. Photo taken just after crossing >>> Lipulekh pass (China border) on Aug 27, 2016. 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