Your opinion Mr. Garg !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 9:50 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you Paradesi ji.
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 9:45 pm, Paradesi Anjaneyulu <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am thinking you're right Saroj Ji, agreed for flaconeri,
>> With regards.
>>
>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 17:05, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Any opinion Paradesi Ji ?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>> Forwarded Conversation
>>> Subject: Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) Petr. (provisionally accepted name)
>>> ??
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:43 PM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Kalinchowk, Dolakha, Nepal
>>> Altitude: 9000 ft.
>>> Date: 26 July 2014
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:10 AM
>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nice images,  Saroj ji.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:52 PM
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Saroj Kasaju <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot,  Chadwell ji.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10 Jan 2017 4:31 p.m., "[email protected]" <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri.   The plant you
>>>> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri
>>>> found in Kashmir.
>>>>
>>>> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as
>>>> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums.
>>>>
>>>> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:01 PM
>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: C CHADWELL <[email protected]>, efloraofindia <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID.
>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 10:18 PM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri.   The plant you
>>> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri
>>> found in Kashmir.
>>> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as
>>> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums.
>>> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult.
>>> - Chadwell ji
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID.
>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139
>>> Thank you.
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: C CHADWELL <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:13 AM
>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the link to the current listing of Cirsium species recorded
>>> from Nepal but ALL these were
>>> within 'An Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal'  Vol 3 (1982)
>>> which covered this genus.
>>>
>>> Kitamura & Gould who wrote the account of Asteraceae (then Compositae)
>>> stated for C.falconeri in
>>> Nepal that the taxon as recognised is a very variable species - they
>>> outlined the differences between
>>> 'Kashmir' plants and 'Eastern Himalaya' ones.  They concluded that the
>>> amount of variation suggests
>>> that several species may be involved and further study is required.
>>>
>>> I am in agreement with this. It does not appear that this study has
>>> taken place in the intervening period.
>>>
>>> I should be in a position to comment further about the images posted
>>> under the name C.falconeri on eFI
>>> but a MAJOR study is required overall - there are limits to what I can
>>> do.
>>>
>>> For the time-being, my INITIAL impressions were that SOME of the images
>>> posted not only did not match
>>> the Kashmir form of C.falconeri but were not the 'Eastern Himalayan
>>> Form' either (whatever taxa are decided
>>> upon when a thorough revision has taken place) and may well belong
>>> either to other Cirsium species or
>>> related genera.
>>>
>>> I cannot meaningful do any MORE with the images you posted at this stage.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Wishes,
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Chadwell
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> *Cc:* C CHADWELL <[email protected]>; efloraofindia <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 January 2017, 10:16
>>> *Subject:* [efloraofindia:261049] Re: Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) Petr.
>>> (provisionally accepted name) ??
>>>
>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID.
>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:52 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot,  Chadwell ji.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> ----------
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:55 PM
>>> To: Ashutosh Sharma <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Ashutosh Ji,
>>>
>>> Some help for ID ?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>> Forwarded Conversation
>>> Subject: Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) Petr. (provisionally accepted name)
>>> ??
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:43 PM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Kalinchowk, Dolakha, Nepal
>>> Altitude: 9000 ft.
>>> Date: 26 July 2014
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:10 AM
>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nice images,  Saroj ji.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:52 PM
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Saroj Kasaju <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot,  Chadwell ji.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10 Jan 2017 4:31 p.m., "[email protected]" <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri.   The plant you
>>>> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri
>>>> found in Kashmir.
>>>>
>>>> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as
>>>> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums.
>>>>
>>>> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:01 PM
>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: C CHADWELL <[email protected]>, efloraofindia <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID.
>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 10:18 PM
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri.   The plant you
>>> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri
>>> found in Kashmir.
>>> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as
>>> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums.
>>> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult.
>>> - Chadwell ji
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID.
>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139
>>> Thank you.
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian
>>>
>>> Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1>
>>>
>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For identification,
>>>
>>> learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join
>>>
>>> our Efloraofindia
>>>
>>> Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix>
>>> (largest
>>>
>>> in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or
>>>
>>> Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/>
>>> (with a species database of more than
>>>
>>> 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>>>
>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a
>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also author of 'A
>>>
>>> Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: C CHADWELL <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:13 AM
>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 6:33 PM
>>> To: Ashutosh Sharma <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: efloraindia <[email protected]>, J.M. Garg <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> This ID is still pending ! Opinion from members please!
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>

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