I did all possible search ! Thank you. Saroj Kasaju
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 9:18 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Looks different from Cirsium falconeri > <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/15/cirsium-falconeri/> as per images > herein. > Pl. check other species in the checklist. > > > On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 11:48, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Your opinion Mr. Garg ! >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 9:50 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Paradesi ji. >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 9:45 pm, Paradesi Anjaneyulu < >>> paradesianjiney...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I am thinking you're right Saroj Ji, agreed for flaconeri, >>>> With regards. >>>> >>>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 17:05, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Any opinion Paradesi Ji ? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> Forwarded Conversation >>>>> Subject: Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) Petr. (provisionally accepted >>>>> name) ?? >>>>> ------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:43 PM >>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg < >>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Members, >>>>> >>>>> Location: Kalinchowk, Dolakha, Nepal >>>>> Altitude: 9000 ft. >>>>> Date: 26 July 2014 >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:10 AM >>>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nice images, Saroj ji. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:52 PM >>>>> To: <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 10 Jan 2017 4:31 p.m., "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" < >>>>> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri. The plant you >>>>>> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri >>>>>> found in Kashmir. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as >>>>>> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums. >>>>>> >>>>>> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:01 PM >>>>> To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> Cc: C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>, efloraofindia < >>>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID. >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 10:18 PM >>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>, < >>>>> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri. The plant you >>>>> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri >>>>> found in Kashmir. >>>>> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as >>>>> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums. >>>>> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult. >>>>> - Chadwell ji >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID. >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian >>>>> >>>>> Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>> >>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For identification, >>>>> >>>>> learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ >>>>> join >>>>> >>>>> our Efloraofindia >>>>> >>>>> Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>>> (largest >>>>> >>>>> in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or >>>>> >>>>> Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> >>>>> (with a species database of more than >>>>> >>>>> 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>>>> >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>> etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also author of 'A >>>>> >>>>> Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> From: C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >>>>> Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:13 AM >>>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com >>>>> > >>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the link to the current listing of Cirsium species recorded >>>>> from Nepal but ALL these were >>>>> within 'An Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal' Vol 3 (1982) >>>>> which covered this genus. >>>>> >>>>> Kitamura & Gould who wrote the account of Asteraceae (then Compositae) >>>>> stated for C.falconeri in >>>>> Nepal that the taxon as recognised is a very variable species - they >>>>> outlined the differences between >>>>> 'Kashmir' plants and 'Eastern Himalaya' ones. They concluded that the >>>>> amount of variation suggests >>>>> that several species may be involved and further study is required. >>>>> >>>>> I am in agreement with this. It does not appear that this study has >>>>> taken place in the intervening period. >>>>> >>>>> I should be in a position to comment further about the images posted >>>>> under the name C.falconeri on eFI >>>>> but a MAJOR study is required overall - there are limits to what I can >>>>> do. >>>>> >>>>> For the time-being, my INITIAL impressions were that SOME of the >>>>> images posted not only did not match >>>>> the Kashmir form of C.falconeri but were not the 'Eastern Himalayan >>>>> Form' either (whatever taxa are decided >>>>> upon when a thorough revision has taken place) and may well belong >>>>> either to other Cirsium species or >>>>> related genera. >>>>> >>>>> I cannot meaningful do any MORE with the images you posted at this >>>>> stage. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best Wishes, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chris Chadwell >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>> SLOUGH >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>> SL3 8BE >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>> UK >>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>> >>>>> www.shpa.org.uk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> *To:* J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> *Cc:* C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>; efloraofindia < >>>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 January 2017, 10:16 >>>>> *Subject:* [efloraofindia:261049] Re: Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) >>>>> Petr. (provisionally accepted name) ?? >>>>> >>>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID. >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:52 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/RruBwOw_KTc/unsubscribe >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:55 PM >>>>> To: Ashutosh Sharma <ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> >>>>> Cc: efloraindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg < >>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Ashutosh Ji, >>>>> >>>>> Some help for ID ? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> Forwarded Conversation >>>>> Subject: Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) Petr. (provisionally accepted >>>>> name) ?? >>>>> ------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:43 PM >>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg < >>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Members, >>>>> >>>>> Location: Kalinchowk, Dolakha, Nepal >>>>> Altitude: 9000 ft. >>>>> Date: 26 July 2014 >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:10 AM >>>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nice images, Saroj ji. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:52 PM >>>>> To: <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 10 Jan 2017 4:31 p.m., "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" < >>>>> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri. The plant you >>>>>> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri >>>>>> found in Kashmir. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as >>>>>> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums. >>>>>> >>>>>> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:01 PM >>>>> To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> Cc: C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>, efloraofindia < >>>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID. >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 10:18 PM >>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>, < >>>>> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri. The plant you >>>>> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri >>>>> found in Kashmir. >>>>> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as >>>>> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums. >>>>> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult. >>>>> - Chadwell ji >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID. >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian >>>>> >>>>> Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>> >>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For identification, >>>>> >>>>> learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ >>>>> join >>>>> >>>>> our Efloraofindia >>>>> >>>>> Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>>> (largest >>>>> >>>>> in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or >>>>> >>>>> Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> >>>>> (with a species database of more than >>>>> >>>>> 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>>>> >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>> etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also author of 'A >>>>> >>>>> Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> From: C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >>>>> Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:13 AM >>>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com >>>>> > >>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 6:33 PM >>>>> To: Ashutosh Sharma <ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> >>>>> Cc: efloraindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg < >>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This ID is still pending ! Opinion from members please! >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAEf%3DytRdqYXvYGa1BtfkVXxjtWKwDKSZk_nx22ENciLaDiYz-A%40mail.gmail.com.
