Good morning, Sir ji.
And thank you very much for those encouraging feedbacks.

I have another suggestion, if I may - please think of it before any search
or allotting your time to it -
what about probability of a rutaceae member? (since I think some of those
flowers also look similar, and they are used for bonsai, and the flower
colour in your species is actually greenish-white, not yellow.! And also
take care of those green-turning-orange fruit in your pic
no MG-20210518-WA0018).

I still cannot get rid of meliaceae though! Just check some fruit pics -

   - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munronia
   -
   http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:26792-1

The problem area is crenate leaf (or leaflets?)


Thank you
With regards
surajit koley


On Mon, 31 May 2021 at 08:54, Mahadeswara <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear  Master  ji,
>   I think you are a very sensitive person.There is no necessity to
> apologize.   It is not justified.  You have used only a synonym.  Nothing
> else.  Your suggestions / remarks based on in -depth study are  very
> valuable for the group.  Nevertheless I value your feelings.
> With best wishes,
>
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 11:24:41 AM UTC+5:30 [email protected]
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Sir ji, for providing answers to my queries.
>> I apologize for using politically incorrect words - it would be
>> "reproductive organs", in place of "sexual organs".
>>
>> However, *your answers no. 1 & 2 imply -  this species wouldn't be a
>> Meliaceae member*, because they mostly have pinnate leaves with entire
>> margins of leaflets.
>>
>> *Please do not waste your time on Meliaceae*.
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>> With regards
>> surajit koley
>>
>> On Sun, 30 May 2021 at 09:07, Mahadeswara <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for taking interest in this thread to unravel its identity
>>> .Regarding your queries,
>>> 1. No. the stunted growth does not deform the plant but it  manifest  in
>>> miniature forms.
>>> 2. Sure.
>>> 3. Yes they remain in normal form.
>>> Meanwhile I am asking the sender of these photographs  to allow the
>>> plant to grow on its own without clipping the plant parts. Let us see what
>>> happens.
>>> Regards,
>>> Dr.Mahadeswara Swamy
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 9:34:33 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was following this thread. I want to know a thing or two about bonsai
>>>> :-
>>>>
>>>>    1. does their stunted growth deform them?
>>>>    2. do leaves retain their characters?
>>>>    3. flowers and fruits should remain as in normal species, since
>>>>    they are sexual organs - isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> Flowers in this species seem to have staminal tube - so why not check
>>>> for meliaceae member, for example -
>>>> https://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_SP512&res=640 ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> With regards
>>>> surajit koley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2021 at 17:30, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> With regards,
>>>>> J. M. Garg
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>> From: M Swamy <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 29 May, 2021, 5:24 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:386558] Swamy/New series/ID/12 - ID of the
>>>>> Plant, Chennai.
>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Garg ji for your  detailed  study in pursuit of the species
>>>>> ID.  Great!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 4:13 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Paradesi ji and Mahadeswara ji.
>>>>>> On checking the family in efloraofindia, I could track it upto 
>>>>>> *Commiphora
>>>>>> wightii* (Arn.) Bhandari
>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/b/burseraceae/commiphora/commiphora-wightii>
>>>>>>  as
>>>>>> per images and details herein and as per
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://plantslive.in/product/buy-commiphora-berryi-usuvaindian-balm-of-gilead-plant-online-india/
>>>>>> http://bonsaiclubofahmedabad.com/sales_detail.php?sales_id=115
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.desertcart.in/products/72901437-guggul-myrrh-tree-commiphora-wightii-exotic-caudex-mukul-bonsai-seed-5-seeds
>>>>>> https://laidbackgardener.blog/2017/12/22/the-two-plants-of-the-magi/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.flipkart.com/chamunda-greens-commiphora-wightii/p/itm33117aadfa00a
>>>>>> ICAR
>>>>>> <https://iinrg.icar.gov.in/library/majorgumresin/mobile/index.html#p=101>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But flowers look different as per
>>>>>> Images at *Commiphora wightii* (Arn.) Bhandari
>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/b/burseraceae/commiphora/commiphora-wightii>
>>>>>> http://gardentia.sitewalla.com/2013/09/16/guggul/
>>>>>> Observations on Flowering and Fruiting in Commiphora wightii (Arnott)
>>>>>> Bhandari
>>>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263090118_Observations_on_Flowering_and_Fruiting_in_Commiphora_wightii_Arnott_Bhandari>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could not find a match with other species listed in Flora of
>>>>>> Peninsular India
>>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/search.php> (namely 
>>>>>> Commiphora
>>>>>> berryi
>>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2208&cat=7>
>>>>>> , Commiphora caudata var. caudata
>>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2209&cat=7>
>>>>>> , Commiphora caudata var. pubescens
>>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2210&cat=7>
>>>>>> , Commiphora gileadensis
>>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2211&cat=7>
>>>>>> , Commiphora myrrha
>>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2212&cat=7>
>>>>>> , Commiphora stocksiana
>>>>>> <http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=2213&cat=7>,
>>>>>>  Commiphora
>>>>>> wightii)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 22 May 2021 at 17:19, M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sending h/w two more photos received.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 9:34 AM Mahadeswara <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot Anjaneyulu ji.  I was thinking it could be a
>>>>>>>> *Commiphora*  species  (Burseraceae) .  Meanwhile you suggested
>>>>>>>> the family.  I will try to work on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 7:46:06 PM UTC+5:30
>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Might be Burseraceae,
>>>>>>>>> With regards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>  05/21/21,
>>>>>>>>> 07:43:20 PM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 17:42, M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>>>>>> Kindly Id the plant photographs received from a friend in
>>>>>>>>>> Chennai.  Photographed yesterday.  I understand it is a  bonsoi  
>>>>>>>>>> plant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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