-- With regards, J. M. Garg ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist) <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 13 Jun, 2021, 8:16 pm Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:387976] Id request for this species of Arenaria . To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
Let me confirm it sir On Sun, 13 Jun, 2021, 5:59 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: > On further consideration, it appears close to* Cerastium holosteoides* as > per POWO > <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:152312-1> > (syn: *Cerastium fontanum* subsp. *vulgare* (Hartman) Greuter & Burdet > of Flora of China > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242000274>) > > On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 at 16:52, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Taxonomy of *Cerastium fontanum* looks quite complex. >> Also no habit and lower portion image, makes the task further difficult. >> Cerastium fontanum does not have distribution in our area as per POWO >> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:152255-1> >> and CoL and also looks different as per GBIF >> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3085458> specimens. >> Two subspecies can be expected as per FoP >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242311891> >> and CoN >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=106150> >> *Cerastium fontanum* subsp. *triviale* (Link) Jalas (syn. of *Cerastium >> glomeratum* <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/14/cerastium-glomeratum/> as >> per POWO >> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:152274-1>) >> looks different as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/3085440> >> specimens. >> *Cerastium fontanum* subsp. *grandiflorum* H. Hara appears somewhat >> close as per POWO >> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:875735-1>, >> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/8496662> specimens- one >> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F669837.jpg>, >> two >> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441383504197bEIC0hHNKXNvKNxn>, >> three >> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441383491530LNFCqEo7g6Rd0vjl>, >> but has only distribution in Nepal as per CoN >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=242000275> >> and POWO >> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:875735-1> >> and CoL >> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/f8a907798601bf82f4a5497300eb51e0/synonym/a1bc91bb3ab53d89e8d68dc30839f99c>. >> But it appears close to your area as per distribution in POWO. >> But I am still not sure. >> >> >> On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 at 13:20, Shakir Ahmad (Amateur Taxonomist) < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes it resembles with C. fontanum... >>> >>> On Sun, 6 Jun, 2021, 12:54 pm Gurcharan Singh, <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Surely Cerastium, bifid petals and 5 styles, more pictures would help >>>> but lax flowers and petals shorter than sepals suggest C. fontanum >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 5:36:47 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>> >>>>> Also could not find a match with any species as per Flora of Pakistan >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=106150>. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 17:23, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Does not match with either of the three as per comparative images at >>>>>> Cerastium <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/14/cerastium/> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 15:35, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, Shakir ji >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 3:17 pm Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer Taxonomist), < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have 3 sp. Of Cerastium here. >>>>>>>> C.davuricum. >>>>>>>> C.cerastoides. >>>>>>>> C.fontanum. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 2:49 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No, It is not Arenaria. >>>>>>>>> I am asking about Cerastium. >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 2:04 pm Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer Taxonomist), < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We have areneria serpylifolia and A.kashmirica >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 1:56 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I need list of species reported in your area or in J and >>>>>>>>>>> K. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>> From: Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer Taxonomist) <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 May, 2021, 1:19 pm >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:386308] Id request for this species >>>>>>>>>>> of Arenaria . >>>>>>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Habit. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 May, 2021, 11:55 am J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Shakir ji, >>>>>>>>>>>> Pl. post a habit image. >>>>>>>>>>>> To me styles appear to be 5. >>>>>>>>>>>> It is not Arenaria >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/07/arenaria/>, as it has 3 >>>>>>>>>>>> styles. >>>>>>>>>>>> To me it appears to be Cerastium >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/14/cerastium/>, which has 3 >>>>>>>>>>>> or 5 styles. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I checked in comparative images at Cerastium >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/14/cerastium/> and species >>>>>>>>>>>> listed in Flora of Pakistan >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=106150> >>>>>>>>>>>> with keys and Checklist of Nepal >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=106150>, >>>>>>>>>>>> but could not find a match. >>>>>>>>>>>> What are the species listed in your area? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 at 22:48, Shakir ahmad (Ammatuer >>>>>>>>>>>> Taxonomist) <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please have look on these small incision on petals. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Location pampore jammu and kashmir >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquEibJ4ZhabNJZfiiP6PCMZv4hQKi98aS00xVOYYRN8ZMg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquEibJ4ZhabNJZfiiP6PCMZv4hQKi98aS00xVOYYRN8ZMg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/98fab531-fa7a-44ca-bcc5-f23b32fa9899n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/98fab531-fa7a-44ca-bcc5-f23b32fa9899n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquGYa4oyVfnFxETMZ0Ah7Kw4BgAm3OxFNKYXhA5H%2BRqkaA%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquGYa4oyVfnFxETMZ0Ah7Kw4BgAm3OxFNKYXhA5H%2BRqkaA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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